the dirt cheap SAS........well close
#21
i got marlin's forged arms when they first came out for $129/pair
the tie rod and draglink were made by a buddy with a lathe. 1-5/16" solid cold rolled rod. $2.90/foot it was $3/foot cheaper than 1-1/4" DOM. 7ft was more than enough.
the shackle tubes are 1.5" x 0.156" wall DOM (1-3/16" ID). the toyota bushings use 18mm or 11/16" bolts.
i did set up my own gears, but under professional supervision. you can often times have a 3rd geared for $150, maybe even less (assuming you pull it yourself).
the tie rod and draglink were made by a buddy with a lathe. 1-5/16" solid cold rolled rod. $2.90/foot it was $3/foot cheaper than 1-1/4" DOM. 7ft was more than enough.
the shackle tubes are 1.5" x 0.156" wall DOM (1-3/16" ID). the toyota bushings use 18mm or 11/16" bolts.
i did set up my own gears, but under professional supervision. you can often times have a 3rd geared for $150, maybe even less (assuming you pull it yourself).
#22
just for fun:
marlin's spring hanger kit: ($195) (includes hanger, shackles, tubes, jigs and bushings)
marlin's forged histeer kit: ($369)
ford shock towers ($22)
gabriel shocks ($40)
rubber brake hose ($20)
stock rear springs (Free)
rotors ($80)
marlin's flip kit ($49)
======================
$775 for a pretty much complete SAS kit
lock rite and gearset: $380
install: $150
knuckle rebuild kit: $75
============
$1380
i know you can take your rig to sonoran steel and have the front hanger and shackle tubes welded pre-sas for $200 or so. then you just have to cut off the IFS with a sawzall or whatever and bolt in the axle and leaf springs, drive it back and have shock towers welded on.
so buy an axle for $100 and you have an SAS for ~$1600!!
marlin's spring hanger kit: ($195) (includes hanger, shackles, tubes, jigs and bushings)
marlin's forged histeer kit: ($369)
ford shock towers ($22)
gabriel shocks ($40)
rubber brake hose ($20)
stock rear springs (Free)
rotors ($80)
marlin's flip kit ($49)
======================
$775 for a pretty much complete SAS kit
lock rite and gearset: $380
install: $150
knuckle rebuild kit: $75
============
$1380
i know you can take your rig to sonoran steel and have the front hanger and shackle tubes welded pre-sas for $200 or so. then you just have to cut off the IFS with a sawzall or whatever and bolt in the axle and leaf springs, drive it back and have shock towers welded on.
so buy an axle for $100 and you have an SAS for ~$1600!!
#24
Also another cheap trick you want to widen your front axle without wheel spacers?
Basically use IFS wheel hubs use the solid axle bearings in them.
Then drill the IFS bolt on pattern to the fj80 rotor bolt them on.
Drill out the threads of the caliper mounts to the knuckle and mount the IFS caliper on the outside of the knuckle using grade 8 bolts.
You have to take some material off the outside portion of the brake caliper and chase the caliper bolt holes with a drill bit depending what size grade 8 bolts you use or you can just tap the caliper bolt holes if you feel so inclined to do so.
Volia widened front axle no wheel spacers.
Old pic before hysteer:

I have run mine for 7 months so far without issues. I did have problems with the calipers though they were reman calipers and I did blow the seals on the drivers side caliper and the passengers side caliper started to leak. Luckily they had a lifetime warranty so I just exhanged them.
Basically use IFS wheel hubs use the solid axle bearings in them.
Then drill the IFS bolt on pattern to the fj80 rotor bolt them on.
Drill out the threads of the caliper mounts to the knuckle and mount the IFS caliper on the outside of the knuckle using grade 8 bolts.
You have to take some material off the outside portion of the brake caliper and chase the caliper bolt holes with a drill bit depending what size grade 8 bolts you use or you can just tap the caliper bolt holes if you feel so inclined to do so.
Volia widened front axle no wheel spacers.
Old pic before hysteer:

I have run mine for 7 months so far without issues. I did have problems with the calipers though they were reman calipers and I did blow the seals on the drivers side caliper and the passengers side caliper started to leak. Luckily they had a lifetime warranty so I just exhanged them.
Last edited by 934rnr; Dec 24, 2005 at 10:29 PM.
#25
Originally Posted by Napoleon047
just for fun:
marlin's spring hanger kit: ($195) (includes hanger, shackles, tubes, jigs and bushings)
marlin's forged histeer kit: ($369)
ford shock towers ($22)
gabriel shocks ($40)
rubber brake hose ($20)
stock rear springs (Free)
rotors ($80)
marlin's flip kit ($49)
======================
$775 for a pretty much complete SAS kit
lock rite and gearset: $380
install: $150
knuckle rebuild kit: $75
============
$1380
i know you can take your rig to sonoran steel and have the front hanger and shackle tubes welded pre-sas for $200 or so. then you just have to cut off the IFS with a sawzall or whatever and bolt in the axle and leaf springs, drive it back and have shock towers welded on.
so buy an axle for $100 and you have an SAS for ~$1600!!
marlin's spring hanger kit: ($195) (includes hanger, shackles, tubes, jigs and bushings)
marlin's forged histeer kit: ($369)
ford shock towers ($22)
gabriel shocks ($40)
rubber brake hose ($20)
stock rear springs (Free)
rotors ($80)
marlin's flip kit ($49)
======================
$775 for a pretty much complete SAS kit
lock rite and gearset: $380
install: $150
knuckle rebuild kit: $75
============
$1380
i know you can take your rig to sonoran steel and have the front hanger and shackle tubes welded pre-sas for $200 or so. then you just have to cut off the IFS with a sawzall or whatever and bolt in the axle and leaf springs, drive it back and have shock towers welded on.
so buy an axle for $100 and you have an SAS for ~$1600!!
Do you have a part number for the Gabriel Shocks you used? Is the part number for the Ford shock towers you used: “E5TZ*18183*A”?
#26
nice work. glad to see someone proving that a SAS doesn't have to drain your bank account. i'm going to be doing mine on the cheap too, come january. free hanger and shackles, rears up front, homemade shock hoops, $50 for some used BBCS 15s... so hopefully it doesn't turn out to be too much.
#27
Originally Posted by yotaman
Do you have a part number for the Gabriel Shocks you used? Is the part number for the Ford shock towers you used: “E5TZ*18183*A”?
rear shocks for a late model F350 4x4 are 14.25" travel if you want some longer ones
#28
Man, that is some nice work! Looks like it works pretty good now. I like those chevy tie rods, I wonder why the Toyota long travel aftermarket manufatcturers don't use those instead o fteh stock ones. They look pretty damn beefy.
Congrats
Congrats
#31
Originally Posted by yotaman
For anyone interested. Gabriel Ultra Shock for 1989 Dodge Truck W250 (3/4 Ton P/U 4WD ) (part #: G63389) is $21.99 at AutoZone.
FWIW, autozone will warranty the shocks if damaged. i run the same ones on the rear and trashed one on a rock, got a new one free.
#37
Originally Posted by eightyfive
how are these shocks compared to blistens? or ranchos? are these even worth the 40 bucks? stiff? soft? tell me more aboiut these shocks....
they do ride very nicely on the street and on washboarded roads. none of my 4x4ing is very high speed, so i cant comment on that.
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