Are you going to Butcher Jones on Sunday? I might be able swing that as long as I don't break anything Saturday.

Where do you guys usually hang out when you get there? I can probably meet you guys at any of the coves if I can't be ready to roll at 6 - which is highly unlikely that I will.

Do you guys have CB's? If so what channel? I'll let you know when I get there - if I come out.

 

I'm in for tomorrow. I hope you guys dont show me up TO bad. I don't actually have any upgrades other than whats in my sig, that should be sufficient right?

 

Back Road to Crown King has been neutered. Its still has all of the challenge spots with bypasses - those are still pretty cool. But the main obstacle at the mine where you make the 90 deg turn left and start the real climb has been removed. All of that up to Crown king has been graded to allow for better fire access.

If you are familiar with CK, the last obstacle *now* is the ledge immediately after a river crossing. Still a good trail, but except for the last area with a bypass, I would call it moderate if you are locked and probably tough if you have open diffs.

I'd love to get out to Sycamore. I was there on my dirt bike and it seemed like it would be great wheeling. I've been to BJ, but aside from the playground in the central area which seemed more traction limited, I couldn't find the tough stuff. That would be great to see too!

EDIT - there has been rumors that Trail #42 by Bartlett Lake may get some funding to clean up and reopen the trail. I sent an email to the forest service office of that area. We'll see.

 

FWIW I have an extra '82 Supra AFM 22250-43110. I found a place that had three of them and my one buddy hit some financial issues so he needs to pass on a 'want' vs. 'need'.

They were $80 shipped each which was the best I could find, so that's what I want to get locally before it goes on ebay. I'm in NW Peoria.

While I'm at it, I also have a set of doors in decent shape, door glass, an "OK" gray center console, rear gray lap belts, electric window regulators, and a lot of stock IFS parts...I think even the 4.10 front diff.

All for 1st gen 4Runner / 2nd gen pickup

 

This is last minute but I'm heading out there just to hang out and swim hope to see u guys out there

 

Dang I didn't get any of post on my phone till we got back! We hang mostly in the 1st cove my rear tranny mount gave out and I got a hole in a tire

 

you guys were at the first cove i drove by there around 1:30ish it was packed took off to the sec cove and just chilled there, it was a nice day although i did get denied on a big hill even with all 4locked but i wasn't aired down, i thought id go out one more time b4 the lift went on.

 

Nah I didn't see any trucks from yotatech so we bounced round 11. Next time we will plan better.

 

You guys shouldve come to the Coke Ovens with us! Had a good diverse group

 

Nick when is the next time your going out? Hopefully ill be able to join you seeing that my truck is really close to being done.

 

I dont know man i was hoping to get my lift kit on this weekend but im not sure if thats gonna happen or not the way things are going, if not though im down for a trip somewere this weekend. If you need some help with your rig let me know.

 

hey angry bob i would be interested in one of those AFM's if you still have one, btw the part # you listed those are the direct swap AFM's correct?

 

I'll be hitting up butcher jones tomorrow, don't know too many areas out there. But stopping at the first cove for a bit, I'll be in my red 88 toy so if any of you see me stop and say hi! I don't know a lot of people into wheeling and it sucks going alone... Haha

 

Looks like the past few weekends there have been alot of last minute random trips out to Butcher Jones. Would anyone be interested in an organized run out there next weekend? I know Butcher Jones very well, I can take us out to the 5 coves. Any 4wd truck can make it out there with no problems.

Let me know who is interested and what day would be best for everyone. I'd like to see if we can get a good idea of who's in by Friday.

 

Drag! im out for a bit. gotta do a water pump in one runner, and back to runnin cookie cutter tires on the other till i put some paper together and purchase some new rubber! looking at some 35s mt/r kevlar! any body run those with some input?

 

hey guys okay i need some help, my buddy has a 95 4runer, 3.0 with auto trans. he has 35 tires and want to regear them, whats the best gears to get that will help in power and wont loose much highway speed? he also is doing limited slip in the rear and lockers in the front. what are the best ones that he should put in? thx guys

 

From what I understand, ya want 5:29's with 35's - did you get in touch with Will at Sierra Expeditions yet? He can help you guys out. They sell and install gears too. They did my truck and I couldn't be happier with the work they did and how my truck performs.

 

no i havnt, since its the weekend i dont think there open so ill call tomorrow.

 

i could be up for a run it would be nice to run with 4 runners (been running with azfj) and seems like i trash something everytime i go out, i'll see how buisness goes this week been slow and no cash for extra's but i will keep my fingers crossed. also if any one needs any glass work done let me know so i can get the runner back on the road.

 

As Jeff mentions 5.29 is the general consensus for 35's. There is also a general consensus out there to step up one size for automatic trannies due to power loss inherent to autos. Best bet would be to determine what he has now. (or had as original equipment)

Here is a chart to figure out what he has for gears now.
http://www.off-road.com/trucks-4x4/t...ion-18588.html

Here is a calculator to come up with a new size.
http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-...alculators.htm

I ran a quickie trial assuming he had 31's and factory 4.88 which put him at 5.51, almost exactly in the middle of 5.29 and 5.71 He could then choose between 5.29 for decent performance and better economy or 5.71 for better performance and somewhat decreased economy. Of course these numbers would change if he had different equipment originally so you need to find out.

IIRC my swap was the same thing where my calculation fell in the middle. I chose to step up instead of down and it works well but I often wonder what if...

The "best" gears seem to change over time so check in with Wil or ZUK when the time gets near. I believe ZUK is no longer doing set ups but I imagine he is still willing to offer advice. Seems Nitro gears are the choice currently.

Finally, if it is determined that your friends truck has Toyota factory 4.88's there is an issue with re-gearing the rear 8 inch diff that you need to research. The upside is that 4.88 diffs/gears are a sought after used part and he should be able to sell them easily.