RUF/Chevy 63s (85 4runner)
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85 4runners have almost exactly the same truck as the pickup. they just look different on top. but underneath they are identical.
RUF is a harded to do then the chevys, because you have steering and limits space to move mounts forward, most people will buy a lift kit for the front. but those are pricey and can ride like a poop. RUF is for the guy with a little bit of fabrication ability to get more flex and a little bit of lift for very little cash.
63 chevys has some options too. like scotty ( the guy who started this thread ) is running on a 2 pack, while i have a 3 pack in on my pickup. its all about opinion.
go grab some springs from the junkyard. spend day cleaning them up. and throw them under the truck. you dont like the way they ride, pull them back out switch up the packs throw them back in.
Happy fabbing!
RUF is a harded to do then the chevys, because you have steering and limits space to move mounts forward, most people will buy a lift kit for the front. but those are pricey and can ride like a poop. RUF is for the guy with a little bit of fabrication ability to get more flex and a little bit of lift for very little cash.
63 chevys has some options too. like scotty ( the guy who started this thread ) is running on a 2 pack, while i have a 3 pack in on my pickup. its all about opinion.
go grab some springs from the junkyard. spend day cleaning them up. and throw them under the truck. you dont like the way they ride, pull them back out switch up the packs throw them back in.
Happy fabbing!
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my buddy is a pretty damn good welder and im starting to get a hang of it, so i think ill be fine on that notion but i guess ill be makin a trip to the good ole junk yard this week end huntin for treasure
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that thing flexes GREAT! Looks great!, and i like how low it rides normal. I would like my 85 to be like that! Tis what I am going for. fairly low ride height, and awesome flex! I love budget inspiration! Thanks!
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i just finished my 63" swap i fabbed everything aside from the rear shackle hanger which i got from sky manufacturing i wish i could get some pictures up my file size is too big.
it was super easy after i was done fabbing everything it only took about an hour to weld it on and bolt it up and bleed brakes. but i had to sleeve my frame with 2x3x1/4" because it had been bobbed to far.
it was super easy after i was done fabbing everything it only took about an hour to weld it on and bolt it up and bleed brakes. but i had to sleeve my frame with 2x3x1/4" because it had been bobbed to far.
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You dont absolutly need high steer, but in order to keep your stock steering you either need to modify the drag link or move your axle back to the stock location which kind of defeats the purpose of doing RUF
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please tell me what bushings and where u get them when u do ruf with 84-88 rear leaf spring packs, the one large eye makes it so i cant find the bushing i need. i have stock front spring hanger
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it depends. do you want to use the sleeve or not? because stock rears use a sleeve in the front eye with 14mm bolt and the rear eye uses no sleeve and an 18mm bolt.
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Refferring to the Chevy springs, Are you guys useing the 3/4 ton 2wd springs , the 1/2 ton 2wd springs or the 4wd 3/4 ton or 4wd 1/2 ton springs and what lift do any of these combo's give you. soooo many choices.
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Hey since we're reviving old threads here, I have a question too....
I got a pair of chevies and the unused SKY kit almost 2 years ago. Then I got a welder. Now I'm finally thinking about doing the swap. Thing is, I drilled out the old chevy bushings and went to NAPA to get new ones...only to learn that the eyes in the springs I got are DIFFERENT sizes (!). Everything else looks right: 2.5" width, 62.5" eye to eye and symmetrical, etc.....I can't reach the guy I bought them from but was wondering if any of you who'd done Chevy swaps came across the eyes/bushings being different sizes on Chevys?? And if so, what bushings to use?
thx
I got a pair of chevies and the unused SKY kit almost 2 years ago. Then I got a welder. Now I'm finally thinking about doing the swap. Thing is, I drilled out the old chevy bushings and went to NAPA to get new ones...only to learn that the eyes in the springs I got are DIFFERENT sizes (!). Everything else looks right: 2.5" width, 62.5" eye to eye and symmetrical, etc.....I can't reach the guy I bought them from but was wondering if any of you who'd done Chevy swaps came across the eyes/bushings being different sizes on Chevys?? And if so, what bushings to use?
thx
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Hey since we're reviving old threads here, I have a question too....
I got a pair of chevies and the unused SKY kit almost 2 years ago. Then I got a welder. Now I'm finally thinking about doing the swap. Thing is, I drilled out the old chevy bushings and went to NAPA to get new ones...only to learn that the eyes in the springs I got are DIFFERENT sizes (!). Everything else looks right: 2.5" width, 62.5" eye to eye and symmetrical, etc.....I can't reach the guy I bought them from but was wondering if any of you who'd done Chevy swaps came across the eyes/bushings being different sizes on Chevys?? And if so, what bushings to use?
thx
I got a pair of chevies and the unused SKY kit almost 2 years ago. Then I got a welder. Now I'm finally thinking about doing the swap. Thing is, I drilled out the old chevy bushings and went to NAPA to get new ones...only to learn that the eyes in the springs I got are DIFFERENT sizes (!). Everything else looks right: 2.5" width, 62.5" eye to eye and symmetrical, etc.....I can't reach the guy I bought them from but was wondering if any of you who'd done Chevy swaps came across the eyes/bushings being different sizes on Chevys?? And if so, what bushings to use?
thx
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I'm searching through these threads because I did a 3L diesel swap and noticed my front springs are starting to sit negative. I'm thinking of adding some leaves from the old fronts to get a slight amount of arch back.
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well since this threads already been brought back from the dead......couple questions. I've been reading up like crazy on doing this swap, still got some questions though. Got an 85 runner stock. stock springs sit negative when parked, rides like ˟˟˟˟. Ive literally hit my head on the roof going over bumpy roads...I'm broke as a joke and shouldn't be spending money on this truck but I drive it to work every day down bumpy dirt roads and im fed up with the ride....junk yard has all the 63" springs and toy packs to swap in for cheap..I can fab the front hanger easy for the chevy spring. I know i can use a double shackle for the rear hanger but I cant afford to buy them, I can just move the rear hanger back and run a fabbed single shackle to the spring? I didnt see a picture but it sounds like thats what the original poster did...can I use the stock shackle hanger moved back? or will I need to fab new ones....can I also re-use the stock ubolts with a new plate?
RUF...obviously the rear toy springs move the axle 2" forward, will the drive shaft reach? I cant afford to get a new one or fab the old one. also I'm going to have to keep stock push/pull steering for now..when tax season rolls around I'll put hy-steer on, but to keep it i just have chop 2 inches off the pitman arm correct? how long of a shackle should I run?
Will my brake lines all around be long enough?
are there any shocks i can pull from the junkyard that will work for the time being till i can get some rancho 5012's?
Hoping to keep the whole job around $100 for now...springs are going to come out to $64 for a pair of 63's and yota 48s..should be able to find all the metal laying around for hangers...any ideas how to do the basic swap for hella cheap? Am I crazy for expecting to be able to do this for this cheap?
Sorry for the noob questions...
RUF...obviously the rear toy springs move the axle 2" forward, will the drive shaft reach? I cant afford to get a new one or fab the old one. also I'm going to have to keep stock push/pull steering for now..when tax season rolls around I'll put hy-steer on, but to keep it i just have chop 2 inches off the pitman arm correct? how long of a shackle should I run?
Will my brake lines all around be long enough?
are there any shocks i can pull from the junkyard that will work for the time being till i can get some rancho 5012's?
Hoping to keep the whole job around $100 for now...springs are going to come out to $64 for a pair of 63's and yota 48s..should be able to find all the metal laying around for hangers...any ideas how to do the basic swap for hella cheap? Am I crazy for expecting to be able to do this for this cheap?
Sorry for the noob questions...
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well since this threads already been brought back from the dead......couple questions. I've been reading up like crazy on doing this swap, still got some questions though. Got an 85 runner stock. stock springs sit negative when parked, rides like ˟˟˟˟. Ive literally hit my head on the roof going over bumpy roads...I'm broke as a joke and shouldn't be spending money on this truck but I drive it to work every day down bumpy dirt roads and im fed up with the ride....junk yard has all the 63" springs and toy packs to swap in for cheap..I can fab the front hanger easy for the chevy spring. I know i can use a double shackle for the rear hanger but I cant afford to buy them, I can just move the rear hanger back and run a fabbed single shackle to the spring? I didnt see a picture but it sounds like thats what the original poster did...can I use the stock shackle hanger moved back? or will I need to fab new ones....can I also re-use the stock ubolts with a new plate?
RUF...obviously the rear toy springs move the axle 2" forward, will the drive shaft reach? I cant afford to get a new one or fab the old one. also I'm going to have to keep stock push/pull steering for now..when tax season rolls around I'll put hy-steer on, but to keep it i just have chop 2 inches off the pitman arm correct? how long of a shackle should I run?
Will my brake lines all around be long enough?
are there any shocks i can pull from the junkyard that will work for the time being till i can get some rancho 5012's?
Sorry for the noob questions...
RUF...obviously the rear toy springs move the axle 2" forward, will the drive shaft reach? I cant afford to get a new one or fab the old one. also I'm going to have to keep stock push/pull steering for now..when tax season rolls around I'll put hy-steer on, but to keep it i just have chop 2 inches off the pitman arm correct? how long of a shackle should I run?
Will my brake lines all around be long enough?
are there any shocks i can pull from the junkyard that will work for the time being till i can get some rancho 5012's?
Sorry for the noob questions...
Ruf move the axle to far foward for stock steering and stock driveshaft. check out my build and you can see the progression of Chevys and stock from set up.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f198...thread-220527/
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first off dont run the double shackle. move the rear hanger as far back as you can and run some plate steel for the shackle. if you can use a grinder and drill some holes you can make them for almost free.
Ruf move the axle to far foward for stock steering and stock driveshaft. check out my build and you can see the progression of Chevys and stock from set up.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f198...thread-220527/
Ruf move the axle to far foward for stock steering and stock driveshaft. check out my build and you can see the progression of Chevys and stock from set up.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f198...thread-220527/