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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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here we go again- another question from yours truely. couldnt find anything in the search cause i dont know what you would call this. After i installed my BJ spacers, i found the front tires pointing like so \--/. is that toe in or what is that called. anyway, i cant see that being good for my tires and if changes with the amount i torque down my BJ spacers but i cant seem to get the height i want and keep the tires straight |--|. suggestions?
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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ok, thats your camber and all you have to do is go get an alignment. i had the same thing happen a couple months ago when i installed my bj spacers and i drove it like that for a few weeks and it could already tell the outside of my tires were wearing so i suggest getting an alignment as soon as possible. but yeah, adjust the height to exactly how you want it then go get an alignment.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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ok, thats your camber and all you have to do is go get an alignment. i had the same thing happen a couple months ago when i installed my bj spacers and i drove it like that for a few weeks and it could already tell the outside of my tires were wearing so i suggest getting an alignment as soon as possible. but yeah, adjust the height to exactly how you want it then go get an alignment.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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Set the truck at the height you want it, then get it aligned.

You can adjust the cam bolts yourself and get it pretty close. That goes for the toe as well. Watching the techs align my truck I was supprised how I could detect misalignment by eye. Perfect, no, but I could get much improved over how it was when I first put on my spacers.

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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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ok, so its not something bent or something along those lines. i was thinking it looks a tiny bit worse on 1 side but could that be from the torsion bars being set a little bit differently?
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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yes.. its an alignment issue... most likely camber, you now have about 2-3 degrees of positive camber... but since settings were changed, toe is probably also a little bit out now as well..... toe is almost impossible t oset by the eye method as its increments are a lot more precise, and toe will wear out tires a lot faster than misalignment of camber.....
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 04:08 PM
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also when i was wheeling this past weekend- i was going up some pretty steep rocky terrain and i had issies with my front end bouncing- alot! i had my tires pressure at approx 18 psi. Would this be from my torsion bars not being cranked enough allowing the front end to be really soft?
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 04:16 PM
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bouncing a lot could jsut be the terrain... if anything the torsions may be too tight..... the balljoint spacers wont change spring rate, however they will change the angularity of the suspension parts and that might make you feel the road differently than had the spacers not been installed....
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:07 PM
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everyone else i was wheeling with didnt have the bouncing issues that i did (some nearly identical setups). I took my torsion bar bolts out and replaced them with new ones when i did the BJ spacers. The bars arent cranked down as much as they were before the spacers were added. having the bars "soft" with aired down tires wouldnt cause me to start bouncing up steep terrain when the tires slip?
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 06:25 AM
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maybe it's the shocks....
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 07:42 AM
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everyone else i was wheeling with didnt have the bouncing issues that i did (some nearly identical setups). I took my torsion bar bolts out and replaced them with new ones when i did the BJ spacers. The bars arent cranked down as much as they were before the spacers were added. having the bars "soft" with aired down tires wouldnt cause me to start bouncing up steep terrain when the tires slip?
You probably need new shocks. All springs want to bounce, shocks are what dampens that out.

18 PSI is also possibly a bit high. How big are your tires? I typically run 12 psi up front and 10 in the back on my 33's. You might be up to say 15 up front with 31's.

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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 07:52 AM
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i just put brand new rancho 5167's up front and my tires are new 33" destination MT's. i aired down to 18 PSI cause i still had a 40 min drive to get to the next gas station to air back up.
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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i just put brand new rancho 5167's up front and my tires are new 33" destination MT's. i aired down to 18 PSI cause i still had a 40 min drive to get to the next gas station to air back up.
The pressure is too high. The tires are a spring as well, an air spring.

Also driving style plays a role. Sometimes just easing a bit on the throttle, or adding just a tad more is all it takes to get rid of the hopping.

Also, is it the front wheels, rear, or all 4 that hop?

I have an inexpensive cigarette lighter compressor to get my tires up to a street able pressure for that reason.

Frank
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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and with the price of the discontinued mv-50s now at liek $25 there is no reason not to get one
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