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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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Whats going on? New to yota tech today.. Thinkin of buildin one up. Ive got 83 axles with gears. Im plannin on buyin an 80-86 pick up to make for an easy S.A.S and keeping the stock 22r. And thinkin 4-5"" lift not sure yet. im going to run 35" swampers. Not road vehicle. Any recomendations on best year of truck? . And was also wondering, is it possible to turbo a 22r? Links to similar builds would be apreciated.
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Cowan6
. Ive got 83 axles with gears. Im plannin on buyin an 80-86 pick up to make for an easy S.A.S and keeping the stock 22r. .
Well you won't need to SAS anything that is 79-85, they are factory straight axles. If you can find an '85 with a 22RE you won't need to do an SAS and than you get Fuel injection..better than a carb IMO. Keep it as low as possible and trim fenders if it is a trail only truck.

'86+ are IFS and would need to be converted in you want a SA.

I would read this link: Pirate Toyota Frequently Asked Questions
(be cautious if you chose to post though on pirate (flaming newbs is a tradition there, but it is a great place to find info)

5.29 gears recommended for 35's

I would just keep reading/searching here and you will find what you need....
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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There are 85's out there if you look around and straight axle w/EFI makes it the best year.
Crossover steering and brake upgrade was my best money spent on mods to date, be warned the mods never stop!
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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if you want a turbo look for a 87 turbo toyota truck and only get a 4inch sas plus fuel injection is nice
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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Something 86-95 with a 22RE 5 spd. Go from there.

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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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Trust me, its worth it to make the extra effort to find an 85 or older with the straight axle instead of converting to it. If you have lots of cash its no big deal though, but me, I am poor college student, bought ifs planning to sas it, and have no money for it. Dang
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Trust me, its worth it to make the extra effort to find an 85 or older with the straight axle instead of converting to it. If you have lots of cash its no big deal though, but me, I am poor college student, bought ifs planning to sas it, and have no money for it. Dang
Wrong answer. If you're gonna build a rig to wheel trails you REALLY need a SFA for, you will do just as much work, if not more, on a factory SFA rig. You will need to TOTALLY redo the steering, push the axle forward (which requires cutting and rewelding the hangers), and a couple other things.

The factory SFA is really nothing special IMHO.

If you don't have the cash to SAS, wheel what ya got - you might be more than a little surprised to see how capable IFS is compared to what you read from the web-wheelers.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 12:49 AM
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Wrong answer. If you're gonna build a rig to wheel trails you REALLY need a SFA for, you will do just as much work, if not more, on a factory SFA rig. You will need to TOTALLY redo the steering, push the axle forward (which requires cutting and rewelding the hangers), and a couple other things.

The factory SFA is really nothing special IMHO.

If you don't have the cash to SAS, wheel what ya got - you might be more than a little surprised to see how capable IFS is compared to what you read from the web-wheelers.
Good points, I guess thats a little more hardcore than I ever fathomed of being, haha. But if your not super hardcore its stilll easier to do a basic lift i think. And my IFS rig suprises me often, it goes places.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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Yes, lifting a leaf sprung, SFA rig is easier, cheaper, and more effective than lifting an IFS rig.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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Yes, lifting a leaf sprung, SFA rig is easier, cheaper, and more effective than lifting an IFS rig.

I'd like to ask you how you know... *KIDDING*

Trust me he know's...

Oh and welcome to YT Cowan6
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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Thanks for all the input everyone really.. And now that i knew people are gonna lend me some help ill let u know whats up.. Collage kid.. me and u are very alike. Im sellin my dirtbike. Should get about 3500$ plus about 500 for xmas.. So i got 4 grand... That boys is what im wondering.. Whats the best way to go for that. I have axles that i wanna use.. There posy and have good gears.. Not sure ratio yet but thats what i wanna do.. More input is awesome .. Thanks
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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$4k is pushing it if you have to pay someone to fo the welding
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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I would get an 85 or older for the SFA, even if you have axles you want to use. You can swap in your axles easier than on an IFS rig. That way if you hvae no money you can still wheel with solid axles untill you can get them switched
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Cowan6
Thanks for all the input everyone really.. And now that i knew people are gonna lend me some help ill let u know whats up.. Collage kid.. me and u are very alike. Im sellin my dirtbike. Should get about 3500$ plus about 500 for xmas.. So i got 4 grand... That boys is what im wondering.. Whats the best way to go for that. I have axles that i wanna use.. There posy and have good gears.. Not sure ratio yet but thats what i wanna do.. More input is awesome .. Thanks


Read, read, and read some more. That is the best way to get info around here. There is tons of info just waiting for you.

But as far as gearing goes, it depends on how tall of a tire you want to run. 35+ means 5.29's. Anything smaller than that, and you can get away with 4.88 maybe 4.10's.

I learned that from reading random threads .
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