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Mudding in a 4cyl 2wd?

Old Mar 30, 2006 | 08:20 AM
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Mudding in a 4cyl 2wd?

Just wondering if it would be a good idea to go mudding in a 4cyl 2wd tacoma? the mud is real soft not sure how deep. The truck is lifted 6" suspension and 2"body with 33x14 super swampers on it. The truck does not have a rear locker so would it be okay or would we be asking to get stuck.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 08:25 AM
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?? might get stuck might not, just don't stop and make sure somewone w/ 4wd is there if you do get stuck!! I went mudding in a 2wd ranger only got stuck twice, once high centered and the other lost all speed and had no grip..this was 12 years ago sorry no pics..
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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If i had a locker you think it would be better? Will the locker help in the mud?
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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Yeah, I think a locker would help...maybe less of slipping sideways and going straight thru.

I'd go offroading on trails first before going mudding. In a 4cyl.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by trd_kid84
Just wondering if it would be a good idea to go mudding in a 4cyl 2wd tacoma? the mud is real soft not sure how deep. The truck is lifted 6" suspension and 2"body with 33x14 super swampers on it. The truck does not have a rear locker so would it be okay or would we be asking to get stuck.

Just remember that without a locker, you only have one drive wheel. If that loses traction, you're in deep yoghurt. With a locker, you have two driving wheels... Much better. With 4wd and a locker, you have potentially 3 driving wheels - even better. With 4wd and 2 lockers, you have 4 driving wheels - best. Does that help?
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SC4Runner
Yeah, I think a locker would help...maybe less of slipping sideways and going straight thru.

I'd go offroading on trails first before going mudding. In a 4cyl.
what about a 4cyl with a locker?
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Tacoclimber
Just remember that without a locker, you only have one drive wheel. If that loses traction, you're in deep yoghurt. With a locker, you have two driving wheels... Much better. With 4wd and a locker, you have potentially 3 driving wheels - even better. With 4wd and 2 lockers, you have 4 driving wheels - best. Does that help?
I i think i got it. its time to buy a ARB locker
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by trd_kid84
I i think i got it. its time to buy a ARB locker

id buy a 4wheel drive before i spent money on an ARB.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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With a 4cyl, you're just gonna have less hp. I had a 99 Tacoma with the 2.7 and I frequently drove through fairly thick mud before putting it in 4wd. You can do it, but the fact is, sooner or later, you probably will get stuck. I've gotten stuck with my truck in 4lo. Just be sensible. But yes, if you get a locker, you're less likely to get stuck. Even with a 4 banger.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by snap-on
id buy a 4wheel drive before i spent money on an ARB.
I agree.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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Wheel what you got. Put those Super Swampers to use. Getting stuck is part of mudding and you'll have more than your fair share being 2WD. Who cares as long as those you're wheeling with don't mind pulling you out.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 00Runner
Wheel what you got.
Hell yeah! I agree, you can always go bigger and better, but when do you ever stop? Throw in a locker, and you still have 2 drive wheels, almost as good as a 4x4 with open diffs. Then go out and do some muddin'!!!!! only trade up to a 4x4 when you find you actually need it, I had a few F250s with 2wd and open diffs, and I had a blast in them in mud, snow, trails. If you want to go through some crazy mud you'll need the 4x4 with lockers, the whole bit, but for playin' around, you should be fine, especially with the swampers. Eventually I bought a 4x4 when those went, but I still get that stuck too. 33x14? those are some wide ass tires, and by the way,

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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JHupp
Hell yeah! I agree, you can always go bigger and better, but when do you ever stop? Throw in a locker, and you still have 2 drive wheels, almost as good as a 4x4 with open diffs. Then go out and do some muddin'!!!!! only trade up to a 4x4 when you find you actually need it, I had a few F250s with 2wd and open diffs, and I had a blast in them in mud, snow, trails. If you want to go through some crazy mud you'll need the 4x4 with lockers, the whole bit, but for playin' around, you should be fine, especially with the swampers. Eventually I bought a 4x4 when those went, but I still get that stuck too. 33x14? those are some wide ass tires, and by the way,
Yeah they are pretty wide. but thats the style in Hawaii. at first i didnt like the swampers cause the ride was kinda rough but after i got use to it i love em. I will try to get pictures of my truck up for you guys to check out. not sure how to post it up on the board though.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 01:34 PM
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might take me a couple days to get pictures cause it has been raining for over 40 days here in hawaii
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by snap-on
id buy a 4wheel drive before i spent money on an ARB.
Definitely.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by trd_kid84
Yeah they are pretty wide. but thats the style in Hawaii.
Ohhhh, didnt know it was one of them there Hawaiin trucks, you'll probably be putting 48x24-15s on it in a few weeks anyway and there will be another thread on it. Hahahahahaha, j/k, you guys have some crazy trucks there.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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I bet you can do some good muddin with that truck. 33 Swampers are pretty kick ass.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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I would lock it before buying 4WD. As mentioned above, locked 2WD is the same as 4WD with open diffs (2wheels driven). As a matter of fact, 2WD locked can be BETTER than 4WD open/open because at least one wheel with traction is receiving power.

I also agree, however, that maybe ARB isn't your best bet. A lunchbox type locker would do you fine and save a bunch of money.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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What about gears? With 33's and stock gears you'll definitely have less of a low end.

I'd say a locker and 4.88's would put you in a better situation.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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whats a luchbox locker?
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