Man i tell ya when it comes to drive shafts i am dumb dumb dumb.

Could you guys tell me what i need to look for in a drive shaft? i mean i was looking at high angle driveline and i have no clue which drive shaft would be right for me. which one would you recomend. i am not going to be doing extreme wheelin and it is my daily driver so....

 

My wheeling buddy built his truggy with AllPro SAS Kit and just about everything they have to offer for his build up. I went with Marlin and we both have had excellent experiences with both.

I would argue Marlin for a couple reasons, but probably the most predominant one would be that Chris Geiger now works for him. In my book, slam dunk.

Marlin's a top-notch outfit for service, shipping, and very friendly.

 

I've used both. I had All Pro install an ARB carrier in my rear axle third member. I drove out to Hemet from Los Angeles and dropped off the diff and they shipped it back. It arrived on time and the work was just fine. I spent about 10 minutes looking around the shop but no one really seemed to want me there.

I had Marlin rebuild my 5 speed transmission. Marlin allowed me to sit next to him at his workbench and explained every detail as he rebuilt my transmission and then we installed it together at his shop. We finished about 3 in the morning and he offered to let me sleep on his couch but I opted to drive back to Los Angeles.

So for me All Pro is a good business and they do fine work. However, with Marlin you're treated like family and that's worth more to me as a customer.

 

Marlin got my buisness for the 85 im building. Better products at a better price with better service IMHO.

 

Marlin's got my business on my 3rd members, top notch service, sales, and goodies!

 

marlin kicks ass, great service, nice folks, and if you have a ??? they cant answer, yer not askin about toys, that being said ive never had any dealings with all pro so...

from what ive heard marlin springs are better, they are made in the USA and AP's are made in mexico

 

If you're not going to be doing anything extreme, then why do you need a SAS?

Marlin has a BBS, allpro does not. You can have an online conversation with many of the marlin staff, including marlin himself.

I grew up in Fallbrook, graduated 95.

 

Well when we took the truck out last time the ifs didnt allow me to go places that i wanted to go. i think if i do the SAS it will give me what i need to wheel where i want where the ifs wouldnt. i mean i know im gonna be out wheelin with some buddies who have a solid axel and they're going to go through some stuff that my ifs wouldnt be able to handle. i wont want to stay behind. that is what happened last time i went out wheelin. also the ifs isnt as durable.

thats cool. ive lived here my whole life, and my dad and mom graduated from fallbrook high. im going to fallbrook high right now.

 

waskillywabbit what drive shaft do you have on your rig. i saw your website but didnt see anything mentioned about your drive shaft

 

Are you locked, front and rear? Lockers and gears will make your rig a lot more capable than just a SFA.

 

Custom from a local place

8" spline up front
CV on the t-case end on the rear
Both lenghthened/strengthened accordingly and balanced
Smooth as glass

About $500 for both but $400 of that was parts w/ $100 labor

 

No i am not currently loceked front and rear and i have stock 4.10 gears.

i want to change to 4.56 gears and put a rear locker but no front. well not for right now anyway. maybe when i get some more money.

but i need more articulation and strength.

i am not planning on only doing a sas. but that is first on my agenda.

when i say im not going extreme i mean like extreme extreme. i am definently going to do some wheelin off the trail. and i will probably get more and more extreme as i get used to it. i am just starting to get into the offroading thing.

 

Lock the rear before anything else. You will be amazed at how much of a difference that makes all by itself. An IFS rig locked front and rear will go further than a SFA rig only locked out back. Flex is not the be-all and end-all.

 

yeah maybe i will lock up the rear then do the sas then do the gear change then when i have the money do the front locker. that sound like a good plan?

what were your guys steps to building your rig?

 

Wheeled stock first, then with better tires, then rear locker, lift, so-on and so-forth. After doing this with 2 rigs, my 85 is just getting built from the ground up, i havent even driven it yet.

 

A lot of us on this board believe it's best to learn how to wheel stock and progress up with suspension, tires, armor, lockers, crawler, then lastly a solid axle swap (or the crawler at the same time as the SAS).

Like joe said, a locker or two will get you farther than 2 open solid axles. People can run the rubicon with ifs.

Ask your parents if they ever had strawberries from the airpark strawberry farm. We grew those strawberries.

 

hey i know exactly what you are talking about. i remember them from when i was growing up. i dont remember ever eating them. im sure my parents did sometime while it was there. actually come to think of it i do remeber my mom bringing home a bunch of strawberries in green baskets i believe she got from there.

and thanx for the tips guys. what are some good lockers. i want one that can lock and unlock. probably not arb because of the price. i actually remeber seeing some that were locked and unlocked with a cable or mechanically or something. i thought that seemed pretty cool instead of electric. i am not a fan of electricity in vehicles. does anyone know what lockers im talking about? or have any other recomendations?