Do I really Need a adjustable Panhard Bar? TJM makes one....
Jul 23, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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Do I really Need a adjustable Panhard Bar? TJM makes one....
I just ordered a 3" lift and i'm really wondering if i need a Panhard Drop Bar. I would definetely get it if it was cheaper but 200 dollars seems a lot for a bar...IMO Any alternatives would be appreciated if i really need this....
I also saw on the TJM website that they have adjustable panhard drop bars but i could not find one for sale...has anyone looked into this??
I also saw on the TJM website that they have adjustable panhard drop bars but i could not find one for sale...has anyone looked into this??
Jul 23, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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http://www.sonoransteel.com/store_drop_bracket.html
your already spending money on the lift, might as well get the a new panhard bar, are you going to have to get longer brake lines as well?
Toyota designed the suspension to work correctly based on that bar being level, the truck will track on the street correctly with the bar level, when the suspension cycles it will react predictable and more responsive with the bar level, after all that is the way Toyota designed it. The axle will in theory droop further with a drop bracket, but in reality the rear shocks are the limiting factor. The rear shocks stop the travel long before the full RTI ramp benefits of the drop come into play. Finally the drop bracket re-aligns your rear axle and springs. With a shifted axle, the springs will sit cockeyed in the seats since they no longer line up and will wear quicker since they are constantly being squished off to an angle rather than straight up and down
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Jul 24, 2007 | 04:35 AM
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http://www.sonoransteel.com/store_drop_bracket.html
your already spending money on the lift, might as well get the a new panhard bar, are you going to have to get longer brake lines as well?
your already spending money on the lift, might as well get the a new panhard bar, are you going to have to get longer brake lines as well?
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Jul 24, 2007 | 06:01 AM
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No you don't really need it, you can live with out it. However, you'll be better off just doing it right, and not half a$$ing it. I did the Tundra/890 lift and had a hard time justifying the Diffdrop. So I can see your problem with doing it. $$$$$$
Jul 24, 2007 | 06:03 AM
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I should mention also, that there are numerous threads on here about people complaning about puting a lift on there rig and the rear end tracking all sideways on bumpy roads. THIS would be a panhard issue.
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Jul 24, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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Yah I guess i should get it but what i'm asking is if I really need it....AKA will something break if i don't get it or is it just a comfort/handling issue(unlike the diff drop that could result in damage if not done from my understanding)
My only concern is that the lift costs like 360 (if u don't include the shocks with i need to replace anyways) and the bar is 200...it is over half of the price of the lift for a bar.... thats what is bothering me....
My only concern is that the lift costs like 360 (if u don't include the shocks with i need to replace anyways) and the bar is 200...it is over half of the price of the lift for a bar.... thats what is bothering me....
Jul 24, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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honestly, lifting your rig cheeply is never the way to go. you will have to extend your brake line, or you will break it the first time that axle droops anymore than at ride height. as for the panhard bar, yes, you do need to either replace it, or find the relocation bracket. it is designed to be there for a reason, at a certain length for stock ride height, when you add 3" to the rear, the geometry changes and you need a longer panhard bar.
why spend the money on doing a lift if you arent even going to do it right? do it right he first time and save yourself alot of headache later. your axle will not be centered under the truck because of the design of that 4/5 link from the factory with out the correct panhard bar.
why spend the money on doing a lift if you arent even going to do it right? do it right he first time and save yourself alot of headache later. your axle will not be centered under the truck because of the design of that 4/5 link from the factory with out the correct panhard bar.
Jul 24, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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I called steve on the same issue, for any lift over 2", yeah, you will need either an adjustable panhard bar(best/expensive) or a panhard drop bracket(better/cheaper). steve doesn't make the bracket, ProComp makes it. also Downey makes one for 3" lift too. 4crawler makes custom length for your spec. so you have plenty of choices. installing the bracket should be a 40-minute job doing yourself, i mean 1 person.
i went with Downey's 3" bracket because they are loacl for me, just 15 minutes away from my home, i don't have to wait.
i went with Downey's 3" bracket because they are loacl for me, just 15 minutes away from my home, i don't have to wait.
Jul 24, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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honestly, lifting your rig cheeply is never the way to go. you will have to extend your brake line, or you will break it the first time that axle droops anymore than at ride height. as for the panhard bar, yes, you do need to either replace it, or find the relocation bracket. it is designed to be there for a reason, at a certain length for stock ride height, when you add 3" to the rear, the geometry changes and you need a longer panhard bar.
why spend the money on doing a lift if you arent even going to do it right? do it right he first time and save yourself alot of headache later. your axle will not be centered under the truck because of the design of that 4/5 link from the factory with out the correct panhard bar.
why spend the money on doing a lift if you arent even going to do it right? do it right he first time and save yourself alot of headache later. your axle will not be centered under the truck because of the design of that 4/5 link from the factory with out the correct panhard bar.
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