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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 03:18 AM
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Building an 884runner for mud.

Hey guys. This is my first post. I have an 884runner. Im looking to fit 35s, or 38s. Can you show me the RIGHT way to lift my truck. I also need a front winch bumper, rock sliders. THX
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 03:50 AM
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Unless you've swapped in a solid front axle, you can forget 38's. IFS stuff is really at its limits with 35's even. Gearing and lockers with 33's will get you alot farther than 35's/38's with open diffs and the wrong gearing.

Do a web search for winch bumpers. There are alot of options. You rig is considered a "1st Gen" 4Runner. 2nd and 3rd Gen stuff is not compatible.
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Cebby
Unless you've swapped in a solid front axle, you can forget 38's. IFS stuff is really at its limits with 35's even. Gearing and lockers with 33's will get you alot farther than 35's/38's with open diffs and the wrong gearing.

Do a web search for winch bumpers. There are alot of options. You rig is considered a "1st Gen" 4Runner. 2nd and 3rd Gen stuff is not compatible.
agrree with Cebby....is this an auto? If so, 571 gears are all you can do with 35" tires......maybe get some 2" balljoint spacers and trim on the fenders some. The front cv's won't be happy with much more lift.
In the rear, maybe some 4~5 inch leaf packs....maybe from allpro or Marlin. I bet your rear packs are saggy right now.
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the 22re and 3.0 a bit too weak for mud bogging?
Drop a 350 in that sucker
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 11:37 AM
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OK. The 22re are fine for offraodand muddin. My buddy has an 88 toyota pickup with a 9 inch lift, and 38s. WHy wouldnt that work in the 4runner? He has had NO PROBLEMS at all. He gets stuck sometimes, but nothing ever breaks. BTW its a MANUAL
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Tacoma750
OK. The 22re are fine for offraodand muddin. My buddy has an 88 toyota pickup with a 9 inch lift, and 38s. WHy wouldnt that work in the 4runner? He has had NO PROBLEMS at all. He gets stuck sometimes, but nothing ever breaks. BTW its a MANUAL
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3" of the 9" is probably a body lift, another couple of inches is probably due to the 38" tires, so the actual suspension lift is probably ~4" of t-bar cranking and spacers.

38's are also going to turn those IFS axles into scrap metal. They will on a stock solid axle, and the IFS axles are weaker.

Why do you want rock sliders on a mud truck ?
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 12:07 PM
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No. He has a 5 inch suspension lift, with 2 inch shackle in the rear. 2 inch body lift.

A lot of people run 38s on the IFS yotas with no problem.
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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I imagine that 38's on IFS in the mud would be no problem, as long as there isn't much traction. But if you put a locker (or maybe even a limited slip) in the front, spin it up real fast to clean the tires, then hit that buried rock you didn't see... BOOM!

Some other guys have already given you the advice you asked for.... But you didn't seem to like it. If you like the way your buddy's truck is set up, it seems the best thing to do would be to ask him how his is set up and duplicate it.
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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I have soms good news for me. It looks like there is an 85 4runner in the paper. That is the SolidAxle. I would be better off building an offroad truck with the solid axle right?
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 12:55 PM
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No...you'd be better off dumping the IFS and putting a solid axle in it's place. No need to get rid of your 88 so fast.
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