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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 09:50 PM
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My question is will i be able to use an A/C compressor as an air compressor. I have used old refrigerator compressor around the house and that seems to work upto and over 120 psi so will the one used in a car work the same. I could pick up a used one for around 200 cnd and judging by its size i think it could push a lot of air compared to an arb compressor am i wrong?

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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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if you want to keep your a/c, i'd suggest checking out budbuilt's york compresser brackets. they piggyback onto your stock a/c compresser, and the york is a little better suited to use as an air compresser because it's self oiling
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 10:09 PM
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i dont have a/c. if i did have it there would be no way i'd gut it just for a compressor.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 11:11 PM
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you can get a stock toyota compressor from a junkyard and rig up front range offroad's oiler kit, which is around 150USD. it would probably be pretty simple, all you need is a stock a/c bracket(get it at a junkyard with the compressor) and a belt

to run a york, you need to make a bracket to bolt up to the motor

both of these should have a good amount of pressure to pump up tires and such, and if you run a tank with them as well you can run air tools
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 11:54 PM
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Most stock AC compressors (including Toyota) require external oiling. The freon in these contained the oil. Forks and some Sandens, have their own sump thus some (including me) consider these more practical for OBA use. What you use all depends on whether you have the skills (or budget) to mount them and run the plumbing.
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 03:41 PM
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Or you could spend a little bit more $$$ and get an Extreme Air.... that's what I'm running. It's good to 150psi, has a 100% duty cycle, and works great for my air lockers, airing up, and my air tools. Granted, I'm running 2 5lb air tanks also... The Extreme Air is about $250 or so...

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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 04:11 PM
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Or you could spend a little bit more $$$ and get an Extreme Air.... that's what I'm running. It's good to 150psi, has a 100% duty cycle, and works great for my air lockers, airing up, and my air tools. Granted, I'm running 2 5lb air tanks also... The Extreme Air is about $250 or so...

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This might be a stupid question but what does 100% duty cycle mean.

And can I check it out online.
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 05:03 PM
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i dont have a/c. if i did have it there would be no way i'd gut it just for a compressor.
I disagree. I have AC but bypassed it with a shorter belt like 4 years ago. I'm gonna eventually use the compressor for Air. Suck it up. I live in Hotlanta and don't need AC. I don't know whether your's is a 4 cyl or 6. But my 22R would probably get smoked by an oldman on a lawnmore with the AC running. It made a huge power difference on my truck that's why I did away with it.
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 08:29 PM
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I disagree. I have AC but bypassed it with a shorter belt like 4 years ago. I'm gonna eventually use the compressor for Air. Suck it up. I live in Hotlanta and don't need AC. I don't know whether your's is a 4 cyl or 6. But my 22R would probably get smoked by an oldman on a lawnmore with the AC running. It made a huge power difference on my truck that's why I did away with it.
ya i too have to 4 cyl and its pretty slow as is.
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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I've got this compressor, maybe I should figure out a way to mount it in my 4Runner....What do you think???


It's a 5000 psi system

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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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What do you think???
I think you're nuts!
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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I've been toying with the idea of belting a mini York to a hopped up chainsaw or string trimmer motor and bolting the whole thing into an ammo can or something for portability. I've had a converted Toy AC pump for a while but its a pain to keep it oiled and then seperate the oil from the air. You have to park side by side to air up another truck, sometimes blocking a trail or road. There has to be a better and cheaper way.

How's that for nuts?

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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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My friend carries a scuba diving tank with him. I think it's pretty cheap and it'll pump them up quick. Just like those power tanks--same general idea.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 01:27 PM
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My friend carries a scuba diving tank with him.
Scuba tank = bomb! I for one don't want to be near anyone with one of those on the trail, it could become a missile if it gets loose and the valve snaps off. An exploding scuba tank can be catastrophic.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by BruceTS
I've got this compressor, maybe I should figure out a way to mount it in my 4Runner....What do you think???


It's a 5000 psi system
Thats a good one. Dont put it in your truck just tow it behind.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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Hehe, I thought you'd get a kick out of that.... Actually I purchased it off eBay a year ago for $500 and it's fully self contained, old military surplus. I was planning on taking it out of the frame and updating the filtration system, then building a better trailer, that I can carry my scuba tanks and gear too.

No, I wasn't serious about installing it in my 4Runner, but it did fit in the back, that's how I got it home.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 07:24 PM
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You didnt tow that but carried it in the runner. "Holy......."

Thats a roomy runner.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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Scuba tank = bomb! I for one don't want to be near anyone with one of those on the trail, it could become a missile if it gets loose and the valve snaps off. An exploding scuba tank can be catastrophic.
I know what your saying but, I'm glad you never go to any competitive rockcrawling events such as Erocc, Urocc, or the Supercrawl, because you would have been near his "BOMB" all weekend long! Although he doesn't keep the tank in the Rig while wheeling, it stays on the trailer and is only retrieved when needed.

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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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Well, I'm glad you never go to any competitive rockcrawling events such as Erocc, Urocc, or the Supercrawl, because you would have been near his "BOMB" all weekend long!
There's a big difference between a CO2 "powertank" and a scuba tank. Besides, a scuba tank is only good for mabye 2-3 air-ups of a single rig per charge.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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There's a big difference between a CO2 "powertank" and a scuba tank. Besides, a scuba tank is only good for mabye 2-3 air-ups of a single rig per charge.
Yeah that's why he has 4 tanks on the trailer. Oh well, talk to his sponsers. He had their Dive Shop sticker on his Jeep at the Supercrawl. I'm not trying to argue but it does work and definitely isn't the best way to air up. I totally know what you're saying there Shane. And so nobody calls me out on this later I do realize that keeping these tanks on the trailer is in no means "On Board Air". I was just making suggestions. I think those powertanks are the way to go though.

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