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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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4" TG SAS kit w/ OME 3-4" rear lift?

So I've got the OME 3-4" lift kit. I'll be keeping rear coils and OME shocks for the time being. I'm running the OME HD coils. I haven't put in the 2" coil spacers as the height in rear matches the front lift so far.

With the TG 4" SAS kit that I've gotten, will the 2" coil spacers help match better or am I looking at having a friend machine me some custom 3" spacers for the OME springs to make do for a while?

Or could I purchase some custom coils for added height and maybe just throw on some bilstein 5100s and make that work? Would the OME shocks work?

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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by chimmike
So I've got the OME 3-4" lift kit. I'll be keeping rear coils and OME shocks for the time being. I'm running the OME HD coils. I haven't put in the 2" coil spacers as the height in rear matches the front lift so far.

With the TG 4" SAS kit that I've gotten, will the 2" coil spacers help match better or am I looking at having a friend machine me some custom 3" spacers for the OME springs to make do for a while?

Or could I purchase some custom coils for added height and maybe just throw on some bilstein 5100s and make that work? Would the OME shocks work?

Thanks guys.

Keep in mind that the 4" springs give a 4" lift,the spring hanger gives 1" lift, and the 2 1/2" over shackles give 2 1/2" of lift.So that is a total of 7 1/2" lift. That is why a lot of the guys that keep their real coil suspension have the saggy butt.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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yeah I understand the saggy butt. I'm just trying to think of a way to maintain the rear coils without having TOO saggy a butt.

I was thinking of having some aluminum 3" coil spacers machined....I can't imagine running spacers larger than that would EVER be good. (even though I'm betting 3" spacers is probably not the best idea anyways, it's a cheap temporary alternative)

Other than that, I'm wondering if there are any taller coils that could be swapped in along with the 2" spacers I've got to add a little bit of height so the sag isn't stupendously scary.

I just don't have the $600 right now to do the rear springs. I've still got to buy the slip yoke for the front driveshaft and get gears and a locker for the front.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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OME Lifted LC coils give around 4-6" of lift, and if that is not enough then you could still add coil spacers ontop. Here's the Link

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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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Hmm. I've got the OME 901HD's right now. So the OME 860's give that much? That might work. I'll have to see what those suckers run.
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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any other suggestions?
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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any other suggestions?
Rear leaf swap.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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Rear leaf swap.

Gimme $600
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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well you had enough for the front, now save up for the rear.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...t=82675&page=4

or....Molly has FJ80 coils that match the front nicely.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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try some of these for about 7" of lift..
http://www.sleeoffroad.com/products/...es_springs.htm

on the right of the page listed as:
SOF4RM | 4" | 300-500 lbs
SOF4RH | 4" | 500-700 lbs

should give you the right lift since stock LC springs are about 3-4" over stock 4runner's
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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hmm, makes me wonder what all else is needed other than shocks.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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I don't think you fully comprehend how terrible this idea is.

Sure, you can put coils in there and get 1000000" of lift to match whatever front height.

Problem is your rear links are pretty maxed out with STOCK cruiser coils and 5009 shocks in there. You are talking about needing almost twice that height to match the front you have in mind.

Look at Marc P and Lysmachia. They ran with stock links for a while but are seeking alternatives.

This says nothing about the complete imbalance of travel between soft coils and stiffer leaves.

Please don't cut corners when you swap. Wait and do it once rather than skimping.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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It works...but there are issues. I am running a low SAS in front. About a 4 inch setup when compared to others. In back I have long side FJ80 coils with All-Pro adjustable upper links, an adjustable panhard bar with drop bracket, and adjustable shocks.

First problem you will find is driveshaft vibrations from the amount of lift. Then the axle is shifted and sticks out more on the passenger side. Also I found the rear end too soft compared to the front.

Can these issues be delt with...yes. But the money you will spend to fix them will be about the same as a leaf swap.

I waited and watched...I bought all my rear end mods used and saved a ton.

a couple pics..







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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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That was what I suspected when I decided to do a SAS. My friends said me "You will regret putting leaves" or "Why in the rear too" and I laught...

For the price of the rear links, panhard bracket and shocks you have a rear leaves kit and no problems with link brackets ripping off the axle and so, isn't it?

David
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 04:59 AM
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Haha, guess I'll be throwing in the coil spacers and just letting it look goofy until I can afford the rear leaf swap.
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 11:44 AM
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The more I think about it, the more I think that with proper geometry, new suspension arms and stuff can be fabbed so that stock geometry is maintained but allows for the greater travel of taller springs.....I might have to get with some of my ME friends and see what they come up with.

Any suggestions in that case though? I mean, we're talking a MUCH better riding suspension in coils than you get with leaves, with probably just as much articulation......for the same price or less as the leaf swap....
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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MAYBE you could lengthen the stock links?
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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The more I think about it, the more you are wasting your time.

How can it be an efficient use of resources to completely redesign and fabricate the stock stuff to work with the height instead of leaves?

Your concern should not be ride when putting a solid axle on your truck, when considering such modifications, other things will take priority.

The stock 4-link with panhard is a crappy suspension.

I slayed this dragon by going with a true 4-link and coilovers.

Why not just run leaves? Stupid easy, no surprises, proven. 5-6 bills for a kit and call it done. Gotta believe it will work better, be more predictable and less wasted time than trying to redesign the stock stuff for SIMPLICITY?
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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The more I think about it, the more I think that with proper geometry, new suspension arms and stuff can be fabbed so that stock geometry is maintained but allows for the greater travel of taller springs.....I might have to get with some of my ME friends and see what they come up with.

Any suggestions in that case though? I mean, we're talking a MUCH better riding suspension in coils than you get with leaves, with probably just as much articulation......for the same price or less as the leaf swap....
like many have said

wheel what you have until you get the rear leaf swap and then put everything in at once, for one those upper links cant take more then 4.5" of lift, you wont get any flex what so ever inless you go with a 3 link instead of the 5 link rear (i am including panhard as a link)

I dont have any SAS tech knowledge, but listen to most everybody here.

oh and curious, why are you sasing in florida? to run bigger tires for huge mud holes? and im not being sarcastic, just asking
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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like many have said

wheel what you have until you get the rear leaf swap and then put everything in at once, for one those upper links cant take more then 4.5" of lift, you wont get any flex what so ever inless you go with a 3 link instead of the 5 link rear (i am including panhard as a link)

I dont have any SAS tech knowledge, but listen to most everybody here.

oh and curious, why are you sasing in florida? to run bigger tires for huge mud holes? and im not being sarcastic, just asking
What?


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