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10-28-2014, 06:04 PM
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Hey guys, I'm brand new to prerunners I've wanted to build on out of my truck for a while (1986 toyota pickup 4x4) but I've been told I need to swap the front axles with longer t100 axles for a decent longtravel kit, also I have some questions as well such as which would be better get some long travel rear leaf springs or get longer trailing arms? Also what are the best shocks and shock sizes? Just General info in all I would really appreciate
10-28-2014, 06:45 PM
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Welcome to YT, most ppl introduce themselves in new arrivals first prior to asking question. Just an edict thing.
Downey used to sale a long trave set that use T100 cv axles. Use caution with rear springs as most of the vendors I know of sale springs that flex good but my not have performance characteristics as desired for prerunner. I'm a slow crawler kinda rig guy.
Downey used to sale a long trave set that use T100 cv axles. Use caution with rear springs as most of the vendors I know of sale springs that flex good but my not have performance characteristics as desired for prerunner. I'm a slow crawler kinda rig guy.
10-28-2014, 07:01 PM
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10-28-2014, 11:19 PM
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The T100 CV axles are used when you install a 3'' over per side long travel kit and want to keep the 4wd option. Just putting T100 axles in to your 86 will not fit and will not do anything for adding more travel.
There are a few manufactures out there that still make 4x4 kits. Total Chaos and JDfab are the 2 better know names of company's that are still in business. There are other kits out there but not as well known or received by the desert community.
For leaf springs, the most used springs for high speed desert stuff are Deavers. The f67 and h70 pack are the main packs used on 4x4 toyotas. Both require new front hangers and shackle mount locations to run them. I also know of a few people running a set of All Pro springs and they say they seem to do ok too. Then there is also the chevy 63'' swap. And an FYI, your truck doesn't have trailing arms.
For shocks, it all depends on what front kit and leaf springs you decide to run. If you decide to keep the frontend on torsions, you can run a smooth body or bypass. If you ditch the torsions you have to then run coilovers. But on some kits you can run both a coil over and bypass. On the rear, to get any good amount of travel you have to either put the new longer shocks through the bed floor and run a custom shock hoop/bed cage or you can do a cantilever setup under the bed and run a shorter shock but the cantilever cost is much more and has to be custom fabbed.
If you really want to get into the desert scene, first thing you need to know is that everything that is worth a damn, is EXPENSIVE, and its like that for a reason. Make a budget of how much you want to spend, now triple it, and you will have what it will cost for what ever suspension setup you want. There is a saying, Cheap, Fast, Reliable. Pick two.
This is just a quick rundown and there are endless ways you can setup this kind of truck.
There are a few manufactures out there that still make 4x4 kits. Total Chaos and JDfab are the 2 better know names of company's that are still in business. There are other kits out there but not as well known or received by the desert community.
For leaf springs, the most used springs for high speed desert stuff are Deavers. The f67 and h70 pack are the main packs used on 4x4 toyotas. Both require new front hangers and shackle mount locations to run them. I also know of a few people running a set of All Pro springs and they say they seem to do ok too. Then there is also the chevy 63'' swap. And an FYI, your truck doesn't have trailing arms.
For shocks, it all depends on what front kit and leaf springs you decide to run. If you decide to keep the frontend on torsions, you can run a smooth body or bypass. If you ditch the torsions you have to then run coilovers. But on some kits you can run both a coil over and bypass. On the rear, to get any good amount of travel you have to either put the new longer shocks through the bed floor and run a custom shock hoop/bed cage or you can do a cantilever setup under the bed and run a shorter shock but the cantilever cost is much more and has to be custom fabbed.
If you really want to get into the desert scene, first thing you need to know is that everything that is worth a damn, is EXPENSIVE, and its like that for a reason. Make a budget of how much you want to spend, now triple it, and you will have what it will cost for what ever suspension setup you want. There is a saying, Cheap, Fast, Reliable. Pick two.
This is just a quick rundown and there are endless ways you can setup this kind of truck.
10-29-2014, 12:58 PM
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the cheapest option for your front end is going to be the Blazeland LT kit, which lets you use the T100 axles. He also lives in SoCal, and is doing more of the prerunner stuff vs the crawler-specific mods you usually find here on YT.
rear suspension you have many options, but for true prerunner travel that will absorb jumps and not break your spine, you'll likely need to have the suspension occupy bed/cargo space in order to keep a lower COG at ride height.
prerunner suspension can get quite expensive and there are many options to choose from. keep in mind that you're also going to need to address safety issues like roll cages and safety harnesses for you and passengers, as well as frame reinforcement etc. etc. if you truly plan to start jumping or mobbing through the desert at high speeds.
rear suspension you have many options, but for true prerunner travel that will absorb jumps and not break your spine, you'll likely need to have the suspension occupy bed/cargo space in order to keep a lower COG at ride height.
prerunner suspension can get quite expensive and there are many options to choose from. keep in mind that you're also going to need to address safety issues like roll cages and safety harnesses for you and passengers, as well as frame reinforcement etc. etc. if you truly plan to start jumping or mobbing through the desert at high speeds.
10-30-2014, 02:34 PM
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Thank you for letting me know about the blaze land kit I will look into it and yeah your correct I am probley going to use a bedcage to fit better shocks, I will however focus on safety first and will put a roll cage and seats etc etc but Thank you you advice really has been helpful to me
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10-30-2014, 03:17 PM
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Or, you could pick up a used TC kit for a little more and have a MUCH better setup. http://www.dezertrangers.com/vb/part...ies/221769.htm
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