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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 06:41 AM
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Wheel Travel

How many inches will my travel increase with out sway bars? Does anyone know if it will really help out or does it just give you an extra inch. I have a stock 3rd gen.

Ps Has anyone ever cut there sway bar in the middle and used a coupling with to pull pins? Does this work?

Chris
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 06:44 AM
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Re: Wheel Travel

Originally posted by NVRSASTK
How many inches will my travel increase with out sway bars? Does anyone know if it will really help out or does it just give you an extra inch. I have a stock 3rd gen.

Ps Has anyone ever cut there sway bar in the middle and used a coupling with to pull pins? Does this work?

Chris
Try this previous thread:

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...ight=sway+bars

And for future reference the "flashing green button of death" is a big help in answering questions too!

Hope this helps!

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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 07:06 AM
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Didn't answer

I'm talking about cutting the bar in the middle of the sway bar under the engine? You can cut it and use a sleeve, weld it on one side and drill a hole on the other. Put a push pin in the hole for street. Off road just pull pin, the sway bar should just rotate in the sleeve.

Next, The first ten articles didn't mention how much travel they gained with out the sway bars connected.
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 07:08 AM
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Re: Didn't answer

Originally posted by NVRSASTK

Next, The first ten articles didn't mention how much travel they gained with out the sway bars connected.
Increase in travel with factory sway bars removed...
Front : 3 1/8 inches
Rear : 1 1/4 inches

Pics/Measurements on my site..
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 07:10 AM
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Thaqnks

Thats what I was wanting to know.... Has anyone ever driven a 3rd gen without sway bars?
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 07:15 AM
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Re: Didn't answer

Originally posted by NVRSASTK
I'm talking about cutting the bar in the middle of the sway bar under the engine? You can cut it and use a sleeve, weld it on one side and drill a hole on the other. Put a push pin in the hole for street. Off road just pull pin, the sway bar should just rotate in the sleeve.
Most discos make the end links disconnect. In doing what you are suggesting, you'll need to do a pretty beefy pin, since there is alot of twisting force on the bar and the potential to shear the pin off unexpectedly.
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 07:35 AM
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I don't think a pin is gonna work at all. Too much stress on it. In reality, swap bar removal should not improve travel (available movement of the suspension relative to the frame), but should increase articulation (available movement of one side of the suspension relative to the other side).
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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Re: Thaqnks

Originally posted by NVRSASTK
Has anyone ever driven a 3rd gen without sway bars?
Yep. Have been for ~6 months now.
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 09:10 AM
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sway bar

Does it have any bad habits?
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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First, I should clarify that I have only disconnected the front one. The general consensus is to leave the rear one in place. As you see, travel gains aren't significant when disconnecting the rear. I have heard of 1 or 2 others who have tried it with both disconnected on-road and indicated it was scary, so that didn't last long. Probably just testing it out for the sake of seeing what it was like more than anything.

With just the front removed, it is definitely drivable. It would still come down to a personal perspective as to how you think you can maneuver and deal with the extra body roll. It does lean quite a bit more on turns. It is also a softer ride up front over bumps and rocks. You would have to test removing it for yourself rather relying on input from others as tastes will vary. Just take it for a test spin around the block to get a feel for it.
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 03:29 PM
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I run without the rear bar. It was simply so tweaked on my truck that it didn't do much so it is sitting in the garage. I run disconnects on the front bar. It's pretty impossible without the front bar connected on the street.
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 09:48 PM
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No sway bars at all, front or rear. But then leaf springs are a little more tolerant of this.
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 10:50 PM
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Re: Thaqnks

Originally posted by NVRSASTK
Has anyone ever driven a 3rd gen without sway bars?
Yeah lots of people have, and they lived to tell about it. However in some states its illegal and if you are in a wreck it might void your insurance and/or make you liable where you wern't liable if you left it stock.

Some 3rd gen drivers say that removing the rear one makes too much other stuff in the rear suspension break or not work right when you really try to flex it.

Personally, I think my old leaf spring and tortion bared junk works a lot better without it when flexing and easily manageable as long as I obey the speed limit and have enough tire pressure.
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