95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners 4th gen pickups and 3rd gen 4Runners

Sway bar shackle repair... help please...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 07:37 AM
  #21  
YotaJunky's Avatar
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 783
Likes: 3
From: Vancouver BC
Here are some shots of the rivNut:

Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 07:40 AM
  #22  
YotaJunky's Avatar
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 783
Likes: 3
From: Vancouver BC
Cebby - the welded on stud also sounds like a great idea. Would welding reduce the strength of the bolt, ie make it harder and more brittle?
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 07:45 AM
  #23  
YotaJunky's Avatar
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 783
Likes: 3
From: Vancouver BC
mt_goat - the chassis metal looks pretty thick. I'd be surprised if a carriage bolt could bend the frame, but it sounds like it's happend to you. I don't think it will be an option for me because I don't see any way of getting above the chassis. Thanks for the suggestion...

Last edited by YotaJunky; Mar 25, 2005 at 07:49 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 07:53 AM
  #24  
mt_goat's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 10,666
Likes: 5
From: Oklahoma State
Originally Posted by troy65
RivNuts? After some searching on the web, it seems that a special tool is required for installation. Great idea, but unless it's a cheap fix, I'll have to scrap that idea due to the cost for the installation tool.
There is something similar to the Rivnuts that doesn't need a special tool. That was what Superlift was sending out with their kits at one time. You drill the hole out to just the right size and slide it in (tight fit if I remember) and as you tighten down the bolt it sets itself in the hole and gets a better grip the more you tighten.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 07:56 AM
  #25  
YotaJunky's Avatar
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 783
Likes: 3
From: Vancouver BC
mt_goat - if you come across the nut you referred to, please let me know. Is it a blind installation? In other words, do you need to have access to both sides or just one side?
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 08:03 AM
  #26  
YotaJunky's Avatar
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 783
Likes: 3
From: Vancouver BC
Here's another interesting option using a self tapping insert. No special tool is required.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 08:07 AM
  #27  
YotaJunky's Avatar
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 783
Likes: 3
From: Vancouver BC
Here's a larger shot of the self tapping insert from another company:

http://www.carrlane.com/Catalog/inde...3C3B285356445B


Last edited by YotaJunky; Mar 25, 2005 at 08:10 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 08:30 AM
  #28  
mt_goat's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 10,666
Likes: 5
From: Oklahoma State
Originally Posted by troy65
mt_goat - if you come across the nut you referred to, please let me know. Is it a blind installation? In other words, do you need to have access to both sides or just one side?
Just the one side. It may be the samething as the "well nut" Roger mentioned.

I can't see the self tapping insert working here because there isn't enough thickness to the frame for the threads to hold. Now if you were to weld a 3/8 inch-thick plate to the bottom of the frame (on both sides to keep it even) then you would have enough meat for the threads on the insert to hold. For that matter you could just drill and tap the plate.

Last edited by mt_goat; Mar 25, 2005 at 08:31 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 08:34 AM
  #29  
mt_goat's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 10,666
Likes: 5
From: Oklahoma State
Something like the Jack nuts here: http://www.auveco.com/proddetjack.htm
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 08:40 AM
  #30  
mt_goat's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 10,666
Likes: 5
From: Oklahoma State
I looked at my Superlift instrutions, they called they nutserts. Here are some: http://www.aboveboardelectronics.com...nd/nutsert.htm
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 08:43 AM
  #31  
BennyTRD's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
From: Canada
Originally Posted by mt_goat
Can you drill a hole through the other side of the frame (top side) and put a long bolt clear through the frame? Might have to get a long drill bit.
I was just going to say that this might be your best bet. If you can get to it.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 08:49 AM
  #32  
mt_goat's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 10,666
Likes: 5
From: Oklahoma State
Here's an interesting one, sqrsert.
http://www.avdel.textron.com/index.h...ed/sqrsert.htm

You just have to find a square drill bit for them

Go to a good autobody shop, they have all kinds of special tricks for repairing stuff.

Last edited by mt_goat; Mar 25, 2005 at 08:51 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 09:03 AM
  #33  
YotaJunky's Avatar
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 783
Likes: 3
From: Vancouver BC
mt_goat - thanks for all your input and the links. This thread may be useful for others who have a similar challenge. For the time being, I've managed to worm a straightened out coat hanger wire from the hole to a larger hole about a foot away. It seems that some holes closer to my target hole which would be large enough to fit either a nut/bolt through, were all blocked by internal partitions.

I'm going to attach nylon fishing line to the hanger wire and pull it through with a bolt fixed to the other end of the line. If this works, I'll be able to fasten the bolt with a nut and it'll be done. I may even have the bolt welded in place. My limited understanding of high heat applied to bolts is that it may reduce the tensile/shear strength of the bolt. Just gotta look for that fishing line now....

Last edited by YotaJunky; Mar 25, 2005 at 09:07 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 09:41 AM
  #34  
YotaJunky's Avatar
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 783
Likes: 3
From: Vancouver BC
Well, the fishing line idea didn't work for me. The bolt got lodged somewhere in the chassis and trying to pull it out from either end didn't help. Lost a perfectly good 10.9 strength metric bolt!! Back to the drawing board.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 10:26 AM
  #35  
mt_goat's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 10,666
Likes: 5
From: Oklahoma State
Roger has some nuts with tabs welded on them that he sells with his body lift kits. http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/ProductLine.shtml

Maybe you could fish one of those into place. Once in place the tab stops the nut from turning while you tighten the bolt. Very handy while installing a bodylift where you can't get a wrench on the nuts.

You are right, welding bolts will weaken them. It destroys the heat treatment. Should be ok with nuts though.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 11:37 AM
  #36  
YotaJunky's Avatar
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 783
Likes: 3
From: Vancouver BC
I've given up on the idea of fishing a nut/bolt in place. The last one got lodged somewhere in the chassis frame.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2005 | 07:10 AM
  #37  
YotaJunky's Avatar
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 783
Likes: 3
From: Vancouver BC
Drilled out the shackle with a 1/2" bit and I'll drive a lag bolt or equivalent into the chassis today. Hope this works.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2005 | 10:19 AM
  #38  
YotaJunky's Avatar
Thread Starter
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 783
Likes: 3
From: Vancouver BC
Couldn't find a lag bolt for the 1/2" hole on a Saturday. Went back and decided to enlarge a nearby hole to try fishing through another bolt. This time....

SUCCESS!!! I used a couple of flange nuts with serated bottoms to make sure they don't come loose.

Here are the pics:




Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ladybugRC
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners (Build-Up Section)
458
Aug 21, 2020 10:41 AM
A2theK
Axles - Suspensions - Tires - Wheels
2
Oct 14, 2015 07:10 AM
Obmi
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
51
Oct 4, 2015 11:30 AM
JookUpVandetti
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
10
Sep 30, 2015 08:58 AM
oldblue
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
0
Sep 28, 2015 04:07 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:45 PM.