Thanks for the responses

Yeah those are the Volk TE37 18" wheels with 285/60/18 tires. The 355mm kit is indeed $2300 shipped (I ordered mine from Alex@Eurospeed Performance -- great guy/service). The smaller 332mm kit is $2100. You will need at least a 17" wheel for either kit. The Rotora kit is nice also as it's a six piston caliper vs the Stoptech's four piston, but it's also like $500 more expensive

The turbo kit was a custom setup for the 3rz-fe engine. The manifold was built by South Florida Performance, the intercooler done by Extreme Intercoolers (awesome service, price, quality), and everything else done locally by me and a friend.

The orange residue is stain from red mulch I was putting down. Should come out with a good pressure washing ... I hope

 

I would love a Rotora brake kit for my Civic...I don't even want to know the price for it.

 

when my rims arrive im doing tundra calipers in the front with adapters and bigger rotors to get somewhat of the same effect. looks sick man gotta find something for the rears tho

 

hmm these look like they fit in this thred.............i love them!

 

Do you mean to say they are much better at modulating the braking power?

Or are you insinuating that they will stop shorter than stock rotors/calipers/ABS system?

 

Stop shorter since they got more pistons in the calipers and a bigger bite on bigger rotors.

 

drool!

 

So you claim that stock rotors/calipers do not have enough "bite" to lock up both front tires if ABS was to be disabled?

 

Im not claiming anything, yes it's probably gives adequate braking power.


Im just saying aftermarket is better than stock.

 

Better in what ways? 60-0mph? That would be false then. A bigger rotor/caliper does not mean shorter stopping distance.

 

How do they not? Brakes work by turning the force of a vehicle in motion into heat. So, if you have calipers with more pistons pressing bigger pads(most likely of a higher friction material than stock) into bigger rotors(that are slotted to ensure that gases from the pads don't stop the pads from biting), wouldn't you think that those brakes would do a better job of turning forward motion into heat? I don't think trangk spent 2300 just so he could better modulate his brakes. That could have been accomplished with some braided steel brake lines. Please explain the reasons for your claims because I don't really see where you are coming from.

 

Yes they will stop shorter than the stock 312mm rotors/calipers. Do I have specs and numbers to back up that claim? Nope, just experience with both setups. I felt the car stopping quicker during my 80-0 break in cycles vs the 60-0 break in cycles I did for the stock setup a month ago (I had to replace my old rotors during my wait for Stoptech to get this kit to me)

The Stoptechs increased my rotor size from ~12inch to ~14inch. That along with larger calipers/pistons/pads/ss lines provided me with more braking surface area, clamping force, COF, etc. The rotors are also aluminum, vented, and slotted to help greatly dissipate heat. Calipers are also aluminum to dissipate heat faster.

So do I think they stop shorter, quicker, better than the stock setup? Yes. That doesn't mean that a comparable sized oem setup can't do as good a job. But for me, I had a smaller setup and this new one is noticably better. I guess it's just something you have to experience. Much like a turbo'ed 3rz engine over a stock 3rz engine. Wanna go for a ride?

 

great looking xrunner!

 

Tires contact the road. Friction. That is the limiting factor on the 4Runner. If you have a caliper/rotor/ABS combo that exceeds the tires, you will not stop faster, no matter how oversized your rotors are.

"Feeling" better stopping power is exactly what is experienced with anything with well tuned discs all around. They modulate braking much better, that is you can pretty much vary braking almost up to locking up the tires, thus it feels better at stopping. A newer model BMW 325 feels very different from a 3RD gen 4Runner as far as braking goes, but real world objective tests show that they are equal in 60-0mph stops.

 

If only the 3rd gen was just as light as 3' series.

 

So are you trying to tell me this upgrade made no improvements over stock on my 4runner? That I should have invested in better tires instead and kept the stock brake system? Really I'd like to know cause I'm confused now. Are you trying to say that larger rotors/calipers make no difference at all?

 

Up to a certain extent, the big brake upgrade helps to shorten the stopping distance. However, the tires will also have an effect, i.e., highway tires have better stopping power than mud terrain tires, or even all terrain tires; soft compund tires provide better grip than hard compound tires.

Also, a wider tire has a bigger contact patch which will also increase stopping power.

As long as your tires can provide enough grip, then your big brake upgrade is effective.
If the tires do not have enough grip to provide stopping power, the locked tires will just slide over the surface. This usually occurs during high speed runs and sudden braking

 

Where did you get 6 lug TE37's? I want these for my truck, in the 20" variety of course.

 

that's the only sane reason to get larger wheels, the reason cars had them in the first place(not because all the idiots thought it'd be cool to roll on dubs)

 

Both of you have valid points but the fact does remain that the stock braking system is designed with enough power to lock up most tires typically run (yes, you could run high performance radials or slicks to gain stopping capability) on a 4runner. Therefore is there is enough stopping power in the stock setup to lock up the tires completely....yes, the upgrade would not be as obvious (except your pedal might feel a bit different from the 4 piston design or the brakes might bite quicker from different pad/rotor materials).

That being said your upgrade would be very effective when towing because I would assume the larger rotors also have a larger thermal mass and thus could stand up to prolonged use (such as a steep incline with a heavy load) without warping (a common problem on the OEM system...I warped 2 sets already while towing). The other benefit of a 4 piston design is not only more pressure, but actually to distribute the load on the brake pad more efficiently again lessening the likelyhood of hot spots on the rotor which can cause warpage. Lastly if you did run tires which could not be locked up by the OEM system (such as 305's or high performance radials) then your larger diameter rotors and pads would produce a difference in stopping distance for sure.