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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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Question Sonoran Steel Vs. Toytec? Opinions Needed

Ok, I am looking for a small lift that rides nice and I am torn between a Sonoran Steel kit (which has coils and shocks) and a Toytec lift which is taller and is only using spacers in the front and no shocks. What are your opinions of both set ups? I only really want 2" of lift.

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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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No spacers

For just coils i would go sonoran, it should provide everything you need.

I am going with toytec coilovers, and ome coils in the rear.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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I've seen and installed some of both and they are both good products from good companies. You won't go wrong with either.

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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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This is what I did for 1.5"-2" of lift. OME springs and torsion with 1.5" spacers up front. Ride is great and gave me that beefier look I was going for. It would depend on the way your planning on using your truck as to whether you would go with spacers or a true re-location type lift. I know you have 3rd gen, but spacers have work well for me.

http://www.jamesdeancreations.com/4r...htm#Suspension

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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TJ_Shunk
I am torn between a Sonoran Steel kit (which has coils and shocks) or a Toytec lift which is taller and is only using spacers in the front.....What are your opinions of both set ups?
From the sonoran FAQ:
20. What about SPACER LIFTS, like Toytec, Cornbred, Revtek, Daystar and others. Spacer lifts are what they are. It was my first lift and the rear spacers keep me happy for 6 months or so and the fronts for less than 9 months. If a spacer lift is the only thing you can afford, so be it. It is better than nothing, or is it? After you read the drawbacks of a spacer lift, maybe stock would actually "work" better off road.

Benefits of a Spacer Lift:
1. Lifts the truck 1-3" higher
2. Very Inexpensive

Downfalls of a spacer lift:
1. The biggest one is that they re-use your stock coils, which is not really a good thing if you are looking for a lift. 96-98 4Runners were 3/4" to 1" lower than the 1999 model year, 2000 was along the lines of 96-98 and 01-02 4Runners were the lowest yet, over 1" lower than the same model 1999 4Runner. When your starting out 1" to 2" lower your 2"-3" spacers are only going to get you 1" or so above a 1999 4WD 4Runner bone stock. Replacing the coils is a far better way to actually gain lift. Take a look at our front coil comparison for yourself.

2. Spacers placed inside the spring pack preload the coil for lift, make it live in a smaller area, by reducing the area it is allowed to live in you in turn reduce upward travel. So you now have less travel than stock, that is not a good thing when you start with so little. Also making the coil live in smaller area without adjusting your a-arms bump stops to compensate will over compress the coil and cause it to stack and fail at a very fast rate. Ask around and see how many people had coils sag or drop with spacers over time. Spacers placed outside the coil pack like the Daystar 1.5" and the Downey spacer increase the shock length which will lead to excessive droop, as the 96-02 4Runners do not have the droop stops of the 86-95 Trucks and 4Runners. This excessive droop will cause the outer CV to bind and literally rip the star out of the joint, resulting in a broken CV axle and a dead truck. Front shock length is critical on these vehicles. This can be fixed with limiting straps, but why not do it right from the beginning.
In other words, spacers provide nothing but lift and room for bigger tires. If thats ALL you want then fine... but the drawbacks and potential failure with front spacers is a no-brainer.
Start with understanding your IFS and how it was designed work then consider the difficulty/level of wheeling that your planning for.
Do you just want a lift? Or a lift that will improve off road performance?
Coils and coil-overs is money better spent. Spacers are a "quick fix" that can go wrong.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by James Dean
This is what I did for 1.5"-2" of lift. OME springs and torsion with 1.5" spacers up front. Ride is great and gave me that beefier look I was going for.

http://www.jamesdeancreations.com/4r...htm#Suspension
The original poster has a 3rd Gen 4Runner...no torsion bars.
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