95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners 4th gen pickups and 3rd gen 4Runners

solid axle swap

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 22, 2009 | 09:51 PM
  #1  
GONZO97's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Fresno, CA
solid axle swap

I want to take my runner to the next level by possibly doing a solid axle swap. What are the steps I need to take to accomplish thias and how much will this cost me?
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2009 | 09:55 PM
  #2  
scuba's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 11,338
Likes: 120
From: Austin, Texas
Oh god. Dude search please. OR hit up ttora. Why do you want a SAS ? Do you NEED it? Or what..? umm step 1. LOTS OF READING AND RESEARCH. <---I suppose you haven't started that...? Expect to spend 3-4k once all is said and done.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 05:01 AM
  #3  
crolison's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,571
Likes: 2
From: TN
Originally Posted by scuba
Oh god. Dude search please. OR hit up ttora. Why do you want a SAS ? Do you NEED it? Or what..? umm step 1. LOTS OF READING AND RESEARCH. <---I suppose you haven't started that...? Expect to spend 3-4k once all is said and done.
3-4k is a very low amount to go into sas, you could pull that off with doing all the work yourself. If your not going to do the work yourself, then double that.

Have you out wheeled your ifs yet?

Last edited by crolison; Feb 23, 2009 at 05:12 AM.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 06:13 AM
  #4  
BajaRunner's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 7,122
Likes: 6
From: 5th Gen San Diegan, California
Here's Sonoransteel's parts list:
http://sonoransteel.com/SA_Parts.html

Most Tacoma/4Runner swaps involve using a Dana 44 out of a Grand Wagoneer w/o vaccum assist and drivers side pumpkin...

You also need to rig up an 86095 IFS steering box to run the tie rod and drag link. Also involves removing your oil pan and putting on a t100 pan.

Thats the easy stuff... the rest of the money is in axle parts and little parts that nickel and dime you.

Then you'll have to also do the rear, but, thats quite a bit easier.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 06:27 AM
  #5  
Gerdo's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,205
Likes: 1
From: SouthWest Littleton, Colorado
[QUOTE=GONZO97;51068179]I want to take my runner to the next levelQUOTE]

From the looks of your avarar, your next step from stock is....

Lift your IFS. Get some real skid plates, bumpers and sliders. Go with some bigger tires, gears and lockers.

This will be alot cheaper and you will be able to do alot of hardcore wheeling.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 06:36 AM
  #6  
88Cleve4runner's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 250
Likes: 0
From: cleveland tn
give us some pictures of what your wheeling with now. if you're wheeling with what your avatar has... then as stated before, modify your ifs first.

unless your only asparations for it are hardcore wheeling and rock climbing right off the bat.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:46 AM
  #7  
904_runner's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,870
Likes: 4
From: Chico, California
If you want to sas your 4runner, there are some pros and cons to it. To me it fells more stable offroad, and actually its very smooth when going slow offroad.
It takes a bit of work, quite a bit of money, and some time if you do it yourself.
Now yours is different than mine because you cannot use a toy axle AFAIK, because you have a driver side differential.

My advise, is to read as much as you can about teh swap before you start it.
I spent more than a few hours reading writeups and learning what others have done before me.

Im not sure what axle you will use, but learn more about said axle, all the part upgrades, how to rebuild them, etc.....


My recommendations to you are to see what others have done, find your axle, spend time to rebuild it and have it ready before you start the swap, then get r done.

Im not sure how familiar you are with this, but it does require a ton of cutting, grinding, and welding involved.

What ever you do, good luck.
im sure you will like the project, it is quite a sense of pride for myself to know i did the swap.

Last edited by 904_runner; Feb 23, 2009 at 07:47 AM.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:24 AM
  #8  
crolison's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,571
Likes: 2
From: TN
Originally Posted by 904_runner
Now yours is different than mine because you cannot use a toy axle AFAIK, because you have a driver side differential.
I am going to just have to change out your tcase for a gear driven. It's cheaper to go with a 4.7 gear drive with passenger drop than to do duals or a lefty.

And then I can run an fj80 axle.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:27 AM
  #9  
904_runner's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,870
Likes: 4
From: Chico, California
Oh, well see.

Thats why i put the,
I haven't a clue what im talking about.

In all reality, i didn't know that was an option, but now i do, Thanks.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 09:00 AM
  #10  
GONZO97's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Fresno, CA
My avatar is a little out dated I have a 3 inch ome lift with the front coil spacers and the new rear coils I don't have aggressive enough tires for my liking. I want to put possibly 35s but I'm pretty sure they won't fit. The sas is a way to get a higher lift. Unless there's another option out there that I'm missing?
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 09:08 AM
  #11  
dropzone's Avatar
Fossilized
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 19,771
Likes: 456
From: PNW
What kind of wheeling do you do? the cost is all relative to your skill set and those of your friends. It is expensive. YOu would be surprised at what some folks can wheel using IFS. TC for one goes places some trucks with SA and 37's won't touch. I know he will chime in on this when he gets off work.

After putting a 5" lift on my '81 and wheeling it for the first time over the weekend, now I wish I was lower. My COG is too high. I will probably end up pulling leaves and getting smaller shackles.

If you can swing by a place like Bent Up fab and talk to AJ about your truck or All-Pro Off Road or Demello there is a ton of shops in cali that do conversions.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 09:09 AM
  #12  
904_runner's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,870
Likes: 4
From: Chico, California
Small body lift or trimming and you can make 35's fit fine.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 09:14 AM
  #13  
scuba's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 11,338
Likes: 120
From: Austin, Texas
Originally Posted by ocdropzone

After putting a 5" lift on my '81 and wheeling it for the first time over the weekend,
WHOA WHOA WHOA, Stop right there, where are the pictures from this..?
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 09:51 AM
  #14  
BLKNBLU's Avatar
Registered User
20 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,130
Likes: 1
From: Arizona
Originally Posted by GONZO97
My avatar is a little out dated I have a 3 inch ome lift with the front coil spacers and the new rear coils I don't have aggressive enough tires for my liking. I want to put possibly 35s but I'm pretty sure they won't fit. The sas is a way to get a higher lift. Unless there's another option out there that I'm missing?
You can outfit your truck like one of these likely for the $$ you would drop into just the axle for a SAS.
http://www.sonoransteel.com/store_co...tml#System_1.2

Also, are you locked front and rear already?
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 10:08 AM
  #15  
yoder519's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,816
Likes: 2
From: virginia
just put a 2 or 3inch body lift on, do some cutting, regear, lock front and rear, throw on the 35s and call it done. if your wanting to do a SAS to get more lift, dont do it unless its a pavement pounder
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 10:14 AM
  #16  
904_runner's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,870
Likes: 4
From: Chico, California
Originally Posted by yoder519
just put a 2 or 3inch body lift on, do some cutting, regear, lock front and rear, throw on the 35s and call it done.
I agree, you may not even need to trim. Locking the rig does wonders offroad, i would start with a rear locker and see how you like it, if you need more then lock the front . My $.02

if your wanting to do a SAS to get more lift, dont do it unless its a pavement pounder
HUH? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of sasing it, if its only for pavement? He could save a bunch of money by putting a body lift on it instead of spending the thousands associated with the sas.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 10:19 AM
  #17  
yoder519's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,816
Likes: 2
From: virginia
904 thats what im saying... he said he wanted to do the SAS to get more lift. i guess hwat im trying to say is people dont sas JUST to get more lift.. unless iits a show truck
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 10:25 AM
  #18  
904_runner's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,870
Likes: 4
From: Chico, California
Oh.

yea at teh front he said he wanted to take his 4runner to the next level
For wheeling i would say sas;ing it would take it there.

I would personally throw a locker in the back and some armor and wheel it, if you feel you need bigger tires, throw a body lift on it, if you feel you need more flex, sas it. my $.02
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 12:15 PM
  #19  
GONZO97's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Fresno, CA
The majority of my off roading takes place at bald mountain up in shaver but my cousin wants to start doing more difficult stuff and I'm scared my runner won't hang with his. I already have the e-locker on the rear but I don't know how good my clearance is. Where can I find a body spacer ?
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 12:20 PM
  #20  
904_runner's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,870
Likes: 4
From: Chico, California
Body lift?

Search for 4crawler.
4crawler.com
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:53 PM.