OOPS...eBay coilover purchase - not so good
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OOPS...eBay coilover purchase - not so good
Hiboyz Adjustable Coilovers
I purchased these used coilovers on eBay. Turns out my "deal" was not so much at deal, my winning bid was nearly the retail price of these things. This followed lots of begging to my wife that "I needed them" and they were a great deal. Initially, I thought they might be the Sway-A-Way Racerunners or Doetsch Systems' foam cell design which would have been a good thing. However, thanks to the tireless efforts of Mike over at XTREME Offroad (great guy, by the way) and the folks on his forum, I learned these are actually sold thru YourTruckinStore.com.
These are actually a cheap(?) knockoff of the Doetsch coilovers. These are not rebuildable, and in talking to the rep at YTS, they "used to" get their raw materials from Doetsch, but they elected to MFg. their own. Does anyone have experience with these shocks? I have got to do some damage control with my wife, so she will allow me to spend the extra $200 bucks to get the SAW RR's. My OME springs and shocks are on their way from Mike at XTREME and I wont be able to install them until I get this resolved.
Any feedback would be appreciated (please no..."I told you so, or were you outta' your mind", my wife will do that I'm sure) - hee hee.
2000 4Runner SR5 Sport
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2-Hella 500's
2-KC HighLights
I purchased these used coilovers on eBay. Turns out my "deal" was not so much at deal, my winning bid was nearly the retail price of these things. This followed lots of begging to my wife that "I needed them" and they were a great deal. Initially, I thought they might be the Sway-A-Way Racerunners or Doetsch Systems' foam cell design which would have been a good thing. However, thanks to the tireless efforts of Mike over at XTREME Offroad (great guy, by the way) and the folks on his forum, I learned these are actually sold thru YourTruckinStore.com.
These are actually a cheap(?) knockoff of the Doetsch coilovers. These are not rebuildable, and in talking to the rep at YTS, they "used to" get their raw materials from Doetsch, but they elected to MFg. their own. Does anyone have experience with these shocks? I have got to do some damage control with my wife, so she will allow me to spend the extra $200 bucks to get the SAW RR's. My OME springs and shocks are on their way from Mike at XTREME and I wont be able to install them until I get this resolved.
Any feedback would be appreciated (please no..."I told you so, or were you outta' your mind", my wife will do that I'm sure) - hee hee.
2000 4Runner SR5 Sport
Deck Plate & K&N
TRD
Yakima Load-Warrior
2-Hella 500's
2-KC HighLights
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Re: OOPS...eBay coilover purchase - not so good
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Hiboyz Adjustable Coilovers
I purchased these used coilovers on eBay. Turns out my "deal" was not so much at deal, my winning bid was nearly the retail price of these things. This followed lots of begging to my wife that "I needed them" and they were a great deal. Initially, I thought they might be the Sway-A-Way Racerunners or Doetsch Systems' foam cell design which would have been a good thing. However, thanks to the tireless efforts of Mike over at XTREME Offroad (great guy, by the way) and the folks on his forum, I learned these are actually sold thru YourTruckinStore.com.
These are actually a cheap(?) knockoff of the Doetsch coilovers. These are not rebuildable, and in talking to the rep at YTS, they "used to" get their raw materials from Doetsch, but they elected to MFg. their own. Does anyone have experience with these shocks? I have got to do some damage control with my wife, so she will allow me to spend the extra $200 bucks to get the SAW RR's. My OME springs and shocks are on their way from Mike at XTREME and I wont be able to install them until I get this resolved.
Any feedback would be appreciated (please no..."I told you so, or were you outta' your mind", my wife will do that I'm sure) - hee hee.
2000 4Runner SR5 Sport
Deck Plate & K&N
TRD
Yakima Load-Warrior
2-Hella 500's
2-KC HighLights
Hiboyz Adjustable Coilovers
I purchased these used coilovers on eBay. Turns out my "deal" was not so much at deal, my winning bid was nearly the retail price of these things. This followed lots of begging to my wife that "I needed them" and they were a great deal. Initially, I thought they might be the Sway-A-Way Racerunners or Doetsch Systems' foam cell design which would have been a good thing. However, thanks to the tireless efforts of Mike over at XTREME Offroad (great guy, by the way) and the folks on his forum, I learned these are actually sold thru YourTruckinStore.com.
These are actually a cheap(?) knockoff of the Doetsch coilovers. These are not rebuildable, and in talking to the rep at YTS, they "used to" get their raw materials from Doetsch, but they elected to MFg. their own. Does anyone have experience with these shocks? I have got to do some damage control with my wife, so she will allow me to spend the extra $200 bucks to get the SAW RR's. My OME springs and shocks are on their way from Mike at XTREME and I wont be able to install them until I get this resolved.
Any feedback would be appreciated (please no..."I told you so, or were you outta' your mind", my wife will do that I'm sure) - hee hee.
2000 4Runner SR5 Sport
Deck Plate & K&N
TRD
Yakima Load-Warrior
2-Hella 500's
2-KC HighLights
Dinner at her favorite restaurant
Do her household chores for a week or two
Don't ask for sex or even hint at it
Do some other crappy thing for her that she hates doing
Hope and pray your wife takes the above bribes
Buy them SAWS and resell the others on Ebay to another "sucker" and when your wife asks how much they cost say "not much"
They don't cost much relative to the total cost of the 4Runner
Been there, although not to this extent, done that, got the t-shirt
Brian
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Thanks waskillywabbit. That aughtta fix things right up!
And for what it's worth...Your advice - with the level of detail you put into it...places you at ZEN MASTER status in my book.
Thanks a bunch!
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HA HA!!! Hey, I have been there... so I can laugh about it. I told my wife we needed a new gun for prairie dogs to keep the dreaded "monkey pox" away and keep us safe. So, one new Savage Varmint rifle later:beaver: I still have no scope for it. She found the reciept for the rifle and was PO'd, thus no scope. I am on step five of Waskilly wabbit's damage control plan now! A Leupold 6-18x50 is almost within my grasp. Hmmm, wich crappy thing to do???
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Ahhh I am sorry my friend, I know I promised not to send you the pricing, however, I had to for you to see the picture
Like we talked about, maybe throw them back on ebay with the same description as before, seems to me by the number of bids that others wanted them. Let me know if I can help you out anymore...best of luck!!
As far as the damage control plan, if you want the accelerated plan, you can try this...
Flowers
Dinner at her favorite restaurant
Jewelry
Forget doing the things she normally does, you will do it wrong and make twice the amount for her, you will then need to start at step one again
LOL Hope everything turns out for you, I am sure it will
Mike
Like we talked about, maybe throw them back on ebay with the same description as before, seems to me by the number of bids that others wanted them. Let me know if I can help you out anymore...best of luck!!
As far as the damage control plan, if you want the accelerated plan, you can try this...
Flowers
Dinner at her favorite restaurant
Jewelry
Forget doing the things she normally does, you will do it wrong and make twice the amount for her, you will then need to start at step one again
LOL Hope everything turns out for you, I am sure it will
Mike
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Hey! Mike,
Thanks! By the way, please don't feel bad about the price thing. This is really about the build quality. It really P's me off when a company steals another companies design, minus the quality. I can see it now...I put these things on and after 6 months of rock gardens and frame twisters they are toast. They are non-rebuidable, so I end up throwing them in the trash. I kinda feel like I bought a cheap Rolex knockoff for $50 below the cost of a real one.
On the bright side...I sent an eMail to the seller and he asked me to "make an offer" on a return. We'll see, he seems like a decent guy. I'll do right by him too.
My wife has been great about this...I promised her that if she would forgive me for this most recent "lapse in judgement", I would give her a break from being pregnant again next year. - hee, hee (She is 6 mos into our 3rd. - 2 of them back to back).
Hey, check out my idea for an aluminum TRD/Yakima wind deflector in the "Which Rack" thread
Thanks again, buddy.
Matt
p.s. My OME's from you should be on their way soon, and I can't stand the prospect of having to shelve them till I save up enough for a new set of RR's. Do you know of anyone with a good used set? If not, I'll guess I'll have to save my pennies for a few months and give you a shout.
Thanks! By the way, please don't feel bad about the price thing. This is really about the build quality. It really P's me off when a company steals another companies design, minus the quality. I can see it now...I put these things on and after 6 months of rock gardens and frame twisters they are toast. They are non-rebuidable, so I end up throwing them in the trash. I kinda feel like I bought a cheap Rolex knockoff for $50 below the cost of a real one.
On the bright side...I sent an eMail to the seller and he asked me to "make an offer" on a return. We'll see, he seems like a decent guy. I'll do right by him too.
My wife has been great about this...I promised her that if she would forgive me for this most recent "lapse in judgement", I would give her a break from being pregnant again next year. - hee, hee (She is 6 mos into our 3rd. - 2 of them back to back).
Hey, check out my idea for an aluminum TRD/Yakima wind deflector in the "Which Rack" thread
Thanks again, buddy.
Matt
p.s. My OME's from you should be on their way soon, and I can't stand the prospect of having to shelve them till I save up enough for a new set of RR's. Do you know of anyone with a good used set? If not, I'll guess I'll have to save my pennies for a few months and give you a shout.
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Originally posted by emptyd
Hey! Mike,
Thanks! By the way, please don't feel bad about the price thing. This is really about the build quality. It really P's me off when a company steals another companies design, minus the quality. I can see it now...I put these things on and after 6 months of rock gardens and frame twisters they are toast. They are non-rebuidable, so I end up throwing them in the trash. I kinda feel like I bought a cheap Rolex knockoff for $50 below the cost of a real one.
On the bright side...I sent an eMail to the seller and he asked me to "make an offer" on a return. We'll see, he seems like a decent guy. I'll do right by him too.
My wife has been great about this...I promised her that if she would forgive me for this most recent "lapse in judgement", I would give her a break from being pregnant again next year. - hee, hee (She is 6 mos into our 3rd. - 2 of them back to back).
Hey, check out my idea for an aluminum TRD/Yakima wind deflector in the "Which Rack" thread
Thanks again, buddy.
Matt
p.s. My OME's from you should be on their way soon, and I can't stand the prospect of having to shelve them till I save up enough for a new set of RR's. Do you know of anyone with a good used set? If not, I'll guess I'll have to save my pennies for a few months and give you a shout.
Hey! Mike,
Thanks! By the way, please don't feel bad about the price thing. This is really about the build quality. It really P's me off when a company steals another companies design, minus the quality. I can see it now...I put these things on and after 6 months of rock gardens and frame twisters they are toast. They are non-rebuidable, so I end up throwing them in the trash. I kinda feel like I bought a cheap Rolex knockoff for $50 below the cost of a real one.
On the bright side...I sent an eMail to the seller and he asked me to "make an offer" on a return. We'll see, he seems like a decent guy. I'll do right by him too.
My wife has been great about this...I promised her that if she would forgive me for this most recent "lapse in judgement", I would give her a break from being pregnant again next year. - hee, hee (She is 6 mos into our 3rd. - 2 of them back to back).
Hey, check out my idea for an aluminum TRD/Yakima wind deflector in the "Which Rack" thread
Thanks again, buddy.
Matt
p.s. My OME's from you should be on their way soon, and I can't stand the prospect of having to shelve them till I save up enough for a new set of RR's. Do you know of anyone with a good used set? If not, I'll guess I'll have to save my pennies for a few months and give you a shout.
I replied on the other thread about the rack and that custom fairing is a SWEET idea. Mind if I steal, uh borrow it and customize it some for a THULE? I work in a fab shop and that would be an easy mod with a nice piece of aluminum or another alloy and then slap some powder coating on it for my black 4Runner.
Brian
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Originally posted by 44Runner
How about you dump the wife. They just get in the way of your 4 wheeling habit anyway....
How about you dump the wife. They just get in the way of your 4 wheeling habit anyway....
"My wife says if I go wheeling one more time she's gonna leave me. I'm sure gonna miss her."
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How about you dump the wife. They just get in the way of your 4 wheeling habit anyway....
How about you dump the wife. They just get in the way of your 4 wheeling habit anyway....
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yeah, and then when she takes half of everything he owns, he won't be able to afford name brand windshield washer fluid.
yeah, and then when she takes half of everything he owns, he won't be able to afford name brand windshield washer fluid.
The only thing he got rid of was all his stuff and what he got to keep was all the bills!
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Mertztr, it's chambered for .243 and has a varmint stock on it And you fellas should consider keepin' the wives around. They actually make pretty good spotters, at least mine does... she keeps me out of all kinds of trouble!
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Re: Matt
Originally posted by waskillywabbit
I hope you get your butt out of a sling and get them SAWS soon. My wife just has this look for me now when I do something to the 4Runner...she no longer says anything. I mean, why bother? I guess she figured there are MUCH WORSE things I could do in my spare time and at least I am at home and let my boys help when they can. Good luck!
I replied on the other thread about the rack and that custom fairing is a SWEET idea. Mind if I steal, uh borrow it and customize it some for a THULE? I work in a fab shop and that would be an easy mod with a nice piece of aluminum or another alloy and then slap some powder coating on it for my black 4Runner.
Brian
I hope you get your butt out of a sling and get them SAWS soon. My wife just has this look for me now when I do something to the 4Runner...she no longer says anything. I mean, why bother? I guess she figured there are MUCH WORSE things I could do in my spare time and at least I am at home and let my boys help when they can. Good luck!
I replied on the other thread about the rack and that custom fairing is a SWEET idea. Mind if I steal, uh borrow it and customize it some for a THULE? I work in a fab shop and that would be an easy mod with a nice piece of aluminum or another alloy and then slap some powder coating on it for my black 4Runner.
Brian
You can absolutely borrow the idea. Here is a link for the materials www.speedmetals.com
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Hey Brian,
You can absolutely borrow the idea. Here is a link for the materials www.speedmetals.com
Matt
Hey Brian,
You can absolutely borrow the idea. Here is a link for the materials www.speedmetals.com
Matt
www.mcabeeconstruction.com
We have just a bit of metal lying around.
Brian
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Re: Re: Re: Matt
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I think I can get the materials from stock...here's where I work
www.mcabeeconstruction.com
We have just a bit of metal lying around.
Brian
I think I can get the materials from stock...here's where I work
www.mcabeeconstruction.com
We have just a bit of metal lying around.
Brian
You definitely are hooked up. You dog, it looks as though you will be getting your TRD YAK before me. It seems the fabs. out here suddenly become Andy Warhol ($$$) when quoting a one-off project. Any interest in cutting two? I'll buy the beer.
Matt
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Originally posted by mertztr
a spin on a bumper sticker:
"My wife says if I go wheeling one more time she's gonna leave me. I'm sure gonna miss her."
a spin on a bumper sticker:
"My wife says if I go wheeling one more time she's gonna leave me. I'm sure gonna miss her."
Back onto the coilovers, Too bad you didn't post here and ask about them. Somebody, if not everybody, here would have prevented you from bidding on them. Sorry to hear the misfortunes but one good thing, you learned to do more research beforehand.
J.
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SUCCESS!!!
The eBay seller agreed to take the coilovers back, and I only lost $100.00 on the entire transaction (shipping back & forth, PayPal fees and $50 I'm a "good guy" rebate).
Thank you all for your words of support...It looks as though I won't be needing anyone's couch to sleep on after all.
Matt
Thank you all for your words of support...It looks as though I won't be needing anyone's couch to sleep on after all.
Matt