Non supercharged Ping in the 3.4 ???
#1
Non supercharged Ping in the 3.4 ???
My 98 Ltd has 140k on it.
Under load, typically at wide throttle openings, I am getting Ping or pre-ignition. Its very consistent and noticeable, to me at least.
This can really only be due to ignition timing, poor fuel quality or a heavily coked top end.
I am pretty sure the ignition timing is set and not adjustable by me so unless I have bad crank sensor, its fixed.
Anyone else experience this ??
Thanks
David
Under load, typically at wide throttle openings, I am getting Ping or pre-ignition. Its very consistent and noticeable, to me at least.
This can really only be due to ignition timing, poor fuel quality or a heavily coked top end.
I am pretty sure the ignition timing is set and not adjustable by me so unless I have bad crank sensor, its fixed.
Anyone else experience this ??
Thanks
David
#6
I get the same thing, especially right around 3200 when it is about to up shift. I cringe every time I hear it. I only use chevron gas, but maybe if a run a few things of techron through the tank it would help. Also my plugs are very old, I haven't gotten around to changing them, would that affect it?
#7
My '99 does the same thing and as far as I can tell there is nothing that I can do about it. I've tried premium gas, cleaned the system, new fuel filter, new plugs, gave her the Seafoam treatment, and it still pings. I have noticed that it pings most in hot weather. I don't really have the problem in winter. So I bought and amp and sub and just turn my stereo up so I can't hear it. I hate that sound!
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#8
That's odd--within the last week or so I have had 2 instances where I get a big loss of power followed by what sounds like a lot of pinging. It kinda sounds like a little diesel or what a car would sound like using leaded gas! I took the go-or-blow approach, and it seemed to get past it, but I would love to know what is causing it--I've had ZERO problems out of my runner up until now.
#10
Thanks all.
I am going to do all the normal stuff this weekend. I will check my plugs but I have less than 12k on them.
I do believe its a combination of gas quality (MTBE in summer) and a coked top end. I do run a fuel cleaner every 3000.
I will then run mid grade for a tank and see what happens, however, that will just confirm that either the top end is coked or the timing is out.
In a pinch, I could try running a cooler plug but with all the city driving I do, fouling is a real possibility.
David
I am going to do all the normal stuff this weekend. I will check my plugs but I have less than 12k on them.
I do believe its a combination of gas quality (MTBE in summer) and a coked top end. I do run a fuel cleaner every 3000.
I will then run mid grade for a tank and see what happens, however, that will just confirm that either the top end is coked or the timing is out.
In a pinch, I could try running a cooler plug but with all the city driving I do, fouling is a real possibility.
David
#11
Giving coke to your runner cannot be good... Seriously though, nobody has mentioned cracked/bad ignition wires. That can sometimes be a problem around the mileage you are at David.
Last edited by mjwalfredo; Aug 10, 2007 at 06:55 AM.
#12
Let us know if you find a cure, sounds like a pretty common ailment.
I have a friend who had an '05 Taco and it was plagued with the "ping". He took it to the dealer service shop a number of times but nothing ever worked. They even replaced the fuel pump. He decided to trade in for an '07 and has had no ping problem with this one. I guess some have it and some don't.
I have a friend who had an '05 Taco and it was plagued with the "ping". He took it to the dealer service shop a number of times but nothing ever worked. They even replaced the fuel pump. He decided to trade in for an '07 and has had no ping problem with this one. I guess some have it and some don't.
#13
Is it intermittent with you guys, or is it all the time? The times mine has done it has been from out of nowhere, and only lasts momentarily. I noticed that the first time it happened to me it was 90+ degrees, and that my 4runner had gotten the hottest I had ever seen it just a few minutes prior from sitting and idling for 20+ minutes in a parking lot. Then it acted up on my wife yesterday...
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