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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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Manual Hub Swap

I'm getting ready to do the manual hub swap on my '97 4Runner and was wondering if anyone had a complete list of parts that I will need to order from Toyota?

I know I need from a wrecking yard:
- Manual hub knuckles
- Manual hub axles
- Manual hubs


Also, I have read that it can and has been done, but I've been unable to find a write-up of how to do the swap and keep ABS.

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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 10:57 PM
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You have to use your spindle, your ABS sensor, your backing plate, manual hub guts, manual hub axles (with the tone ring from your axle) and manual hub bodies.

There have been a few writeups, not sure if they still exist on this website anymore.
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
You have to use your spindle, your ABS sensor, your backing plate, manual hub guts, manual hub axles (with the tone ring from your axle) and manual hub bodies.

There have been a few writeups, not sure if they still exist on this website anymore.
That is if he wants to keep abs, if you don't want to keep it then its a lot easier.

You'd need:

Spindles, hubs, cv's
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by crolison
That is if he wants to keep abs, if you don't want to keep it then its a lot easier.

You'd need:

Spindles, hubs, cv's
I need to keep ABS.
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
You have to use your spindle, your ABS sensor, your backing plate, manual hub guts, manual hub axles (with the tone ring from your axle) and manual hub bodies.

There have been a few writeups, not sure if they still exist on this website anymore.
So basically, I press all the stock junk out of my spindle, and then press all of the manual hub junk in, along with the ABS ring?

And then I need the SST to torque the brass nut to 203ft-lbs.

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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 914runner
So basically, I press all the stock junk out of my spindle, and then press all of the manual hub junk in, along with the ABS ring?

And then I need the SST to torque the brass nut to 203ft-lbs.

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Good luck with pressing them out and in, your going to need new bearings and seals when you do it.

Your gonna need a lot of force to press them out
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 09:50 AM
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Good luck with pressing them out and in, your going to need new bearings and seals when you do it.

Your gonna need a lot of force to press them out
I have a big press, so that shouldnt be a problem or I might just take it somewhere so I don't have to mess with it,

Are the bearings and seals the same for ADD and manual hub vehicles?

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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 914runner
Are the bearings and seals the same for ADD and manual hub vehicles?
Yep they are.
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 04:19 PM
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do it yourself manual hub swap links

http://www.sonoransteel.com/junk_yard_manual_hubs.html

http://offroadsolutions.com/manualhubs.html

This info should be helpful for ya!
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Old Dec 18, 2008 | 07:31 AM
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i'm looking into to doing this in the near future as well.

so basically if i want to keep abs, i need to get

from a junk yard
manual hub assembly from a 95-04 taco with manual hubs

and the axle shafts



then pull my axles out, and plus the others in, then install the manual hubs?

or do i need the spindles too?

what i don't understand is why the bearings need pressed

or are the wheel hubs (the part that has the studs) a different spline thank the axles for the manual hub setup?
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Old Dec 18, 2008 | 08:16 AM
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The bearings have to be pressed becuase you need the install the manual hub guts into your ABS spindle, to be able to retain ABS. When you press the guts out, it ruins the bearing and retainer.

Also, the ADD hub spines are larger and a different number than those of the Manual hubs.
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Old Dec 18, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
The bearings have to be pressed becuase you need the install the manual hub guts into your ABS spindle, to be able to retain ABS. When you press the guts out, it ruins the bearing and retainer.

Also, the ADD hub spines are larger and a different number than those of the Manual hubs.
ok, now what about the add? i want to do away with that so there is one less thing to go wrong when you need it to work. does that mean i have to get the whole diff from the truck with manual hubs?
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Old Dec 18, 2008 | 10:08 PM
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The easiest way is indeed to get the complete diff, however if you can find someone willing to sell just the non-ADD jack shaft assy, you can bolt the jack shaft on to your diff.
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
The easiest way is indeed to get the complete diff, however if you can find someone willing to sell just the non-ADD jack shaft assy, you can bolt the jack shaft on to your diff.
ahh, ok, i'll have to hit some junk yards this spring
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