How high is to high?
Aug 7, 2007 | 08:43 AM
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Aug 7, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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there is some mis info, so dont rely to heavy on mine whereas im a 2nd gen owner who is putting their lift on within the next 2 weeks (yeee!)
if your wayy to worried about stability then just shy away from a lift you can fit aggressive 31" tires underthere no problem and could be happy, but many ppl do lift their vehicle and if you drive smart you wont wind up on your side, any change in tires will kill your gas, mine is a DD too, i've realized this will happen but i've also realized gas will always float from 2.30-3.30 a gallon and im gonna have to get over it, might as well do it and be happy w/ what you drive right? the 4 cyl will be sluggish but maybe down the line you'll regear, or if you hate your lift you could reverse it, what i see on most 3rd gen runners are Spacer lifts, relatively cheap and easy, search that and you'll come up w/ alot of info, or LandCruiser coils, i know the rear coils can lift you up front, but i think that it may provide more of a lift than you want. And dont rule out a 2" body lift, 4crawler.com can provide some body lifts, and try trdparts4u.com they might have some good priced OME items for you to buy, try 32" tires or stay w/ 31" if you dont want much lift or dont wanna spend too much money or dont wanna kill your gas, but w/ a lift you have to realize anything will harm your gas a little, dont forget about the 33x10.50 tires too, most ppl go for the 33x12.50 (like me) and will have some rubbing issues or might be doing some cutting, i dont know enough about the 3rd gen but thats alot of universal info i've picked up, if you read about BJ Spacers or Add-a-leaf those are for 3rd gen pick ups or BJ-LC lift those are 2nd gen 4runner, just give the 3rd gen 4runner section a peak and look at other guys rigs, many ppls signatures will have info on their truck and you can type that into the search, good luck w/ your lift!
EDIT: when you do find what you want take a trip over to the classified marketplace on the forums, you can usually find some of what your looking for that other guys used and are selling, you probably wont have any issue with structural integrity just because its used and can usually find a buy for REAL cheap... one mans trash is anothers treasure right
if your wayy to worried about stability then just shy away from a lift you can fit aggressive 31" tires underthere no problem and could be happy, but many ppl do lift their vehicle and if you drive smart you wont wind up on your side, any change in tires will kill your gas, mine is a DD too, i've realized this will happen but i've also realized gas will always float from 2.30-3.30 a gallon and im gonna have to get over it, might as well do it and be happy w/ what you drive right? the 4 cyl will be sluggish but maybe down the line you'll regear, or if you hate your lift you could reverse it, what i see on most 3rd gen runners are Spacer lifts, relatively cheap and easy, search that and you'll come up w/ alot of info, or LandCruiser coils, i know the rear coils can lift you up front, but i think that it may provide more of a lift than you want. And dont rule out a 2" body lift, 4crawler.com can provide some body lifts, and try trdparts4u.com they might have some good priced OME items for you to buy, try 32" tires or stay w/ 31" if you dont want much lift or dont wanna spend too much money or dont wanna kill your gas, but w/ a lift you have to realize anything will harm your gas a little, dont forget about the 33x10.50 tires too, most ppl go for the 33x12.50 (like me) and will have some rubbing issues or might be doing some cutting, i dont know enough about the 3rd gen but thats alot of universal info i've picked up, if you read about BJ Spacers or Add-a-leaf those are for 3rd gen pick ups or BJ-LC lift those are 2nd gen 4runner, just give the 3rd gen 4runner section a peak and look at other guys rigs, many ppls signatures will have info on their truck and you can type that into the search, good luck w/ your lift!
EDIT: when you do find what you want take a trip over to the classified marketplace on the forums, you can usually find some of what your looking for that other guys used and are selling, you probably wont have any issue with structural integrity just because its used and can usually find a buy for REAL cheap... one mans trash is anothers treasure right
Aug 7, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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Ive got a 1996 4runner and am gunna lift it but ive been warned about going higher than 3in with 31in tires cuz it would make it a rollbucket. Ive also heard how the 3rd gen are alot more stable than the 2nd gen. Im not lookin rock crawl i still wanna make it my daily driver, and advise?
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Aug 7, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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I wouldn't go over 3" if that high, and I wouldn't go any bigger than 32's if you dont want to regear. I would say do a 2.5 inch spacer lift and run some 265/75/16 A/T tires. The spacer lift is plenty good enough for what you want to do, but will sag over time, but is your cheapest "suspension" option.
Above that, you can get a 2"-3" spring lift, and still stick with those 265/75 tires. Best of luck to you Triptech, you may also want to consider trimming your fenders, and hammering your pinch weld in the wheelwells, so you can lift less and keep uit stable, and still fit bigger tires.
Bud (of BudBuilt fame) has a Tacoma lifted only 3 inches, and has hammered and trimmed his fenders enough to slam 35" tires on there. That thing is wicked stable!!!
Above that, you can get a 2"-3" spring lift, and still stick with those 265/75 tires. Best of luck to you Triptech, you may also want to consider trimming your fenders, and hammering your pinch weld in the wheelwells, so you can lift less and keep uit stable, and still fit bigger tires.
Bud (of BudBuilt fame) has a Tacoma lifted only 3 inches, and has hammered and trimmed his fenders enough to slam 35" tires on there. That thing is wicked stable!!!
Aug 7, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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wow.... i dont think any of that was really helpful to him. whatever.
if you really want to lift, you can get the OME (old man emu) 890 coils with stock front land cruiser shocks from an fzj80 for the rear of your 4runner, and the trd tundra coils for the front. search this forum for info on the tundra front lift. this will give you 2ish inches of lift, and perfect (in my own opinion of course) lift for what you want to do with it.
that being said. the 4runner is very capable as a stock 4x4. if you are in fact 4wd, which i am assuming.
with that lift, you can keep your stock size 265/70r16 (31's) or move up to 265/75r16 (32's). as for tipping in corners. with sway bars, and driving like you should be driving, there is absolutely no worry about it. just take corners a bit slower, because you are a high profile vehicle, and you will always keep the rubber side down.
as for where to source these parts, you can find them a few different places. the tundra coils and shocks for the front, you can buy new from the dealer, same with the shocks you will be installing on the rear. OME products can be purcased a number of different places. my personal suggestion is buying from steve at www.sonoransteel.com he has excellent customer service and is really just a top notch guy! on his website you are looking for system 7.1.
i hope this provided you with some actual real info.
if you really want to lift, you can get the OME (old man emu) 890 coils with stock front land cruiser shocks from an fzj80 for the rear of your 4runner, and the trd tundra coils for the front. search this forum for info on the tundra front lift. this will give you 2ish inches of lift, and perfect (in my own opinion of course) lift for what you want to do with it.
that being said. the 4runner is very capable as a stock 4x4. if you are in fact 4wd, which i am assuming.
with that lift, you can keep your stock size 265/70r16 (31's) or move up to 265/75r16 (32's). as for tipping in corners. with sway bars, and driving like you should be driving, there is absolutely no worry about it. just take corners a bit slower, because you are a high profile vehicle, and you will always keep the rubber side down.
as for where to source these parts, you can find them a few different places. the tundra coils and shocks for the front, you can buy new from the dealer, same with the shocks you will be installing on the rear. OME products can be purcased a number of different places. my personal suggestion is buying from steve at www.sonoransteel.com he has excellent customer service and is really just a top notch guy! on his website you are looking for system 7.1.
i hope this provided you with some actual real info.
Aug 7, 2007 | 10:54 AM
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I don't see how much of this was "misinformation". Almost all of the replies were based on actual methods of lifting a vehicle, whether through body lifts, bj spacers, AAL, or whatever. The "best" way to lift a vehicle is a still matter of opinion. It's all dependent on how you're gonna use it. :
Does that strike you as a good way to lift a 96 4runner?
The frames on 3rd gens are weaker up front than second gens, hence the reason that 3rd gen SAS's require so much more frame plating to be strong enough to hold leaf springs.
However, all of the weight estimates are academic really. He isn't looking to buy a second gen, so we don't really care which weighs more. The issue he is looking for is whether or not he will experience instability issues with a 3in lift.
to the original poster, yes, you will be more unstable, unless you widen your stance with wider tires.
However, IF you can restrain yourself from driving your 4runner like a sports car, you will be fine. Take it easy and you'll be okay. In the event of evasive maneuvers in an emergency highway situation, you will be more likely to roll with the 3in lift than you would be with a stock suspension, but not significanltly so. for the record, ANY amount of lift will cause you to have a higher COG, and without widening your base, you will be more likely to roll.
Buy what fits your budget. 31's will be fine with a 3in lift. Its your truck, forget what other people think is "cool".
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Aug 7, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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there is some mis info, so dont rely to heavy on mine whereas im a 2nd gen owner who is putting their lift on within the next 2 weeks (yeee!)
if your wayy to worried about stability then just shy away from a lift you can fit aggressive 31" tires underthere no problem and could be happy, but many ppl do lift their vehicle and if you drive smart you wont wind up on your side, any change in tires will kill your gas, mine is a DD too, i've realized this will happen but i've also realized gas will always float from 2.30-3.30 a gallon and im gonna have to get over it, might as well do it and be happy w/ what you drive right? the 4 cyl will be sluggish but maybe down the line you'll regear, or if you hate your lift you could reverse it, what i see on most 3rd gen runners are Spacer lifts, relatively cheap and easy, search that and you'll come up w/ alot of info, or LandCruiser coils, i know the rear coils can lift you up front, but i think that it may provide more of a lift than you want. And dont rule out a 2" body lift, 4crawler.com can provide some body lifts, and try trdparts4u.com they might have some good priced OME items for you to buy, try 32" tires or stay w/ 31" if you dont want much lift or dont wanna spend too much money or dont wanna kill your gas, but w/ a lift you have to realize anything will harm your gas a little, dont forget about the 33x10.50 tires too, most ppl go for the 33x12.50 (like me) and will have some rubbing issues or might be doing some cutting, i dont know enough about the 3rd gen but thats alot of universal info i've picked up, if you read about BJ Spacers or Add-a-leaf those are for 3rd gen pick ups or BJ-LC lift those are 2nd gen 4runner, just give the 3rd gen 4runner section a peak and look at other guys rigs, many ppls signatures will have info on their truck and you can type that into the search, good luck w/ your lift!
EDIT: when you do find what you want take a trip over to the classified marketplace on the forums, you can usually find some of what your looking for that other guys used and are selling, you probably wont have any issue with structural integrity just because its used and can usually find a buy for REAL cheap... one mans trash is anothers treasure right
if your wayy to worried about stability then just shy away from a lift you can fit aggressive 31" tires underthere no problem and could be happy, but many ppl do lift their vehicle and if you drive smart you wont wind up on your side, any change in tires will kill your gas, mine is a DD too, i've realized this will happen but i've also realized gas will always float from 2.30-3.30 a gallon and im gonna have to get over it, might as well do it and be happy w/ what you drive right? the 4 cyl will be sluggish but maybe down the line you'll regear, or if you hate your lift you could reverse it, what i see on most 3rd gen runners are Spacer lifts, relatively cheap and easy, search that and you'll come up w/ alot of info, or LandCruiser coils, i know the rear coils can lift you up front, but i think that it may provide more of a lift than you want. And dont rule out a 2" body lift, 4crawler.com can provide some body lifts, and try trdparts4u.com they might have some good priced OME items for you to buy, try 32" tires or stay w/ 31" if you dont want much lift or dont wanna spend too much money or dont wanna kill your gas, but w/ a lift you have to realize anything will harm your gas a little, dont forget about the 33x10.50 tires too, most ppl go for the 33x12.50 (like me) and will have some rubbing issues or might be doing some cutting, i dont know enough about the 3rd gen but thats alot of universal info i've picked up, if you read about BJ Spacers or Add-a-leaf those are for 3rd gen pick ups or BJ-LC lift those are 2nd gen 4runner, just give the 3rd gen 4runner section a peak and look at other guys rigs, many ppls signatures will have info on their truck and you can type that into the search, good luck w/ your lift!
EDIT: when you do find what you want take a trip over to the classified marketplace on the forums, you can usually find some of what your looking for that other guys used and are selling, you probably wont have any issue with structural integrity just because its used and can usually find a buy for REAL cheap... one mans trash is anothers treasure right
I can't even understand the first paragraph, if that is what you want to call it, since it is really just one sentence. Punctuation people, it isn't that hard.
Aug 7, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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Aug 7, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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Aug 18, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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I went with OME 881/890's (stiff shocks and struts) and some 265/75/16 yokes on after market wheels. It looks great, does great offroad and rides/corners awesome on the street (much firmer than stock). I am very happy with my setup. I also made my own drop track bar bracket for the rear. I have no drive line vibes with the sonoran diff drop either.
Aug 18, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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Can he outfit his 96 4Runner with 99 4x4 springs along with some 1" Cornfed spacers front and rear. Then run 265/75/16's to give him a decent lifted look and ride? I personally want to do this so I thought I would ask.
Aug 18, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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I have run 3 different types of 265/75/16s for over 90,000 miles on the stock '97 suspension. Street and light duty trail work and I never had any rubbing issues that I recall.
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