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Old Oct 17, 2010 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by camo31"10.50"
if you go with Paint, just go with rattle can.


it will only go on "unevenly" if you spray it that way....

if you have access to an air compressor you can pick up a small Harbor Freight HVLP spray gun, and some Dupli Color paint shop paint...clear coat mixed in.
Unfortunately I don't have access to a compressor...I still live in an apartment so I just don't have the room for one.

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If you do it right and take your time you can make semi gloss or gloss black rattle can job look great.

EDIT: Beat me to it camo, i typed to slow
So what rattle can paint should I use? I was going to start with a coat of self etching primer to make sure the paint has something to stick to...Also, what kind of clearcoat should I use? because I don't want the sun and other normal driving conditions to ruin the paintjob...
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Old Oct 17, 2010 | 07:49 PM
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I have always just done a couple coats of primer, like 3 coats of color. And a couple coats of clear.

But on your nice 4runner you might want to google a more "proper" way of doing it. I have just done it on beater civics and stuff. It always looks good though
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Old Oct 17, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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sounds like its gonna be sweet man. What area of austin do you live in? I'm up in Pflugerville, and I don't know of many Yota drivers up here. There are a lot of them, just not ones I know on the forums. good luck on the hood.
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 2DoorRunner
I have always just done a couple coats of primer, like 3 coats of color. And a couple coats of clear.

But on your nice 4runner you might want to google a more "proper" way of doing it. I have just done it on beater civics and stuff. It always looks good though
Yeah that is what I have done for paintjobs in the past. I'm just unsure what kind of paint I should use...I'm going to do some more research today so hopefully I can find something that will work nicely

Originally Posted by jrobertson4runnner
sounds like its gonna be sweet man. What area of austin do you live in? I'm up in Pflugerville, and I don't know of many Yota drivers up here. There are a lot of them, just not ones I know on the forums. good luck on the hood.
Thanks! I am in South-Central Austin close to St. Edward's University, I just started grad school there.
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 06:16 AM
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Why not just get a can of paint directly from Toyota. They will have it perfectly matched to your color and it's not that expensive.
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Swimmerboy2112
Why not just get a can of paint directly from Toyota. They will have it perfectly matched to your color and it's not that expensive.
I really like that idea, I didn't even know that Toyota would just sell you the paint. Do you have any idea how expensive it is? I guess the other thing to consider is that I would have to pay someone to spray it on for me, unless it can be rolled on...

At this point I still haven't decided what I want to do so I am open to any other ideas, tips, advice, etc. Let me know what you guys think
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 4ever4running
I really like that idea, I didn't even know that Toyota would just sell you the paint. Do you have any idea how expensive it is?
i got some touch-up paint from the dealership, and it wasn't that bad. perfect match (just give 'em the vin) and about the same price as autozone/advance. i would assume the same for larger quantities (quart sized, maybe?)
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 07:26 AM
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i got some touch-up paint from the dealership, and it wasn't that bad. perfect match (just give 'em the vin) and about the same price as autozone/advance. i would assume the same for larger quantities (quart sized, maybe?)
That sounds like the way to go as long as it doesn't cost me an arm and a leg...Does anyone know if it can be rolled on? I would only get it if I can roll it on because I don't want to have to pay someone to spray it on for me...
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 4ever4running
That sounds like the way to go as long as it doesn't cost me an arm and a leg...Does anyone know if it can be rolled on? I would only get it if I can roll it on because I don't want to have to pay someone to spray it on for me...
I don't see why it can't be rolled on. You can probably pick up a quart (which is way more than you need) for under $50
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 08:08 AM
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Hate to piss on your parade, but have you sat in a 4Runner with a hoodscoop? My buddy's Taco has a scoop and its a PITA as it obstructs the view of the ground right in front of the truck. He wishes his truck never had a scoop.
Seriously? This is a shot from my eyesight line while driving and I'm only 5'10" so it's not like I'm tall in the seat. You sound like a Car&Driver reviewer.

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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Swimmerboy2112
I don't see why it can't be rolled on. You can probably pick up a quart (which is way more than you need) for under $50
+1
i might be ordering some more touch-up paint soon
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 4ever4running
That sounds like the way to go as long as it doesn't cost me an arm and a leg...Does anyone know if it can be rolled on? I would only get it if I can roll it on because I don't want to have to pay someone to spray it on for me...
I don't see why it can't be rolled on. You can probably pick up a quart (which is way more than you need) for under $50
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Swimmerboy2112
I don't see why it can't be rolled on. You can probably pick up a quart (which is way more than you need) for under $50
Cool! Well I think that is the way that I will go.

Does anyone have a step-by-step procedure/writeup that I can follow? I have never rolled on paint before so I just want to make sure it comes out right.

And for those paint experts out there...
1) Do I need primer?
2) Do I need to cut/thin the paint with anything?
3) Does 3 coats sound about right?
4) Should I sand between coats? If so, what grit?
5) What clearcoat should I use?
6) Any other tips, info or advice?
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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heh, déjà vu much?
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 12:38 PM
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I would just go with spraying some self etching primer, then some building primer, block it up to 400-600 grit, then rattle can it with some flat black. I've never heard of a dealer that will sell anything bigger than a tube of touch up. Matching paint is not perfect either, that's why body shops will blend the color into adjacent panels to trick your eye into not seeing the slight mismatch, especially with metallics. From your avatar it looks like you have a white vehicle with no metallic, but any color is difficult to match. The computers they use for paint mixes usually have multiple variations of the same color, add in fading paint and sometimes yellowing clear coats from years of sun exposure and you realize it's not as simple as getting your paint code and you're done. If you can't spray it yourself, I would go to an automotive paint store in your area (Sherwin Williams people are usually very knowledgeable) and ask them about your idea of rolling it on and see what product they suggest. Rolling on a product that is meant to be sprayed can and will probably cause a lot of issues since the spray on products are meant to go on in thin coats with a flash time for the solvents to evaporate thoroughly before the next coat is applied. Rolling it on thick will probably cause adhesion issues, won't cure forever, and you might run into the same globby mess you just sanded off.

Like I said, the cheapest and easiest thing to do would be to go with a flat black spray bomb and call it good. I had my sport hood professionally painted by the best body shop in town but requested they NOT blend into the fenders, and even though it's a VERY good match, it's not perfect and the clear coat they used is yellowing at a different rate than the OEM finish. I should have gone flat black and put the money into something worthwhile.

Finally, if you're going to do your rockers with Herculiner, I think a black hood would look sweet and give it a cool Stormtrooper look. Just my opinion.
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pattycakes77
I would just go with spraying some self etching primer, then some building primer, block it up to 400-600 grit, then rattle can it with some flat black. I've never heard of a dealer that will sell anything bigger than a tube of touch up. Matching paint is not perfect either, that's why body shops will blend the color into adjacent panels to trick your eye into not seeing the slight mismatch, especially with metallics. From your avatar it looks like you have a white vehicle with no metallic, but any color is difficult to match. The computers they use for paint mixes usually have multiple variations of the same color, add in fading paint and sometimes yellowing clear coats from years of sun exposure and you realize it's not as simple as getting your paint code and you're done. If you can't spray it yourself, I would go to an automotive paint store in your area (Sherwin Williams people are usually very knowledgeable) and ask them about your idea of rolling it on and see what product they suggest. Rolling on a product that is meant to be sprayed can and will probably cause a lot of issues since the spray on products are meant to go on in thin coats with a flash time for the solvents to evaporate thoroughly before the next coat is applied. Rolling it on thick will probably cause adhesion issues, won't cure forever, and you might run into the same globby mess you just sanded off.

Like I said, the cheapest and easiest thing to do would be to go with a flat black spray bomb and call it good. I had my sport hood professionally painted by the best body shop in town but requested they NOT blend into the fenders, and even though it's a VERY good match, it's not perfect and the clear coat they used is yellowing at a different rate than the OEM finish. I should have gone flat black and put the money into something worthwhile.

Finally, if you're going to do your rockers with Herculiner, I think a black hood would look sweet and give it a cool Stormtrooper look. Just my opinion.

Don't do flat black, get it painted to match the truck. Do it right. Check with your Toyota dealership and see if the have the paint. When i had my Hyundai Tiburon i needed a quart of paint to paint my hood. They had it and sold it to me for $44. And it matched perfectly. Can't hurt to ask eh?
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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And if Toyota doesn't carry the paint, go to your local body shop and ask them to mix you up a quart or however much you need. I'm sure they will be happy to do so.
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well i read this a few times but havent gotten a chance to read through the whole thread until now... glad u got the hood scoop, ya im like mauzer, live in San Antonio and was wondering when someone was gonna pick this up. Well looks like ur on the right track and good luck with the roll on. i have nvr done paint on something like this and wouldnt trust myself!
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by xskydivingdudex
well i read this a few times but havent gotten a chance to read through the whole thread until now... glad u got the hood scoop, ya im like mauzer, live in San Antonio and was wondering when someone was gonna pick this up. Well looks like ur on the right track and good luck with the roll on. i have nvr done paint on something like this and wouldnt trust myself!
Yeah I contacted him about a week and a half after he posted it so I thought it would definitely be gone...I guess I just got lucky!

Originally Posted by pattycakes77
I would just go with spraying some self etching primer, then some building primer, block it up to 400-600 grit, then rattle can it with some flat black. I've never heard of a dealer that will sell anything bigger than a tube of touch up. Matching paint is not perfect either, that's why body shops will blend the color into adjacent panels to trick your eye into not seeing the slight mismatch, especially with metallics. From your avatar it looks like you have a white vehicle with no metallic, but any color is difficult to match. The computers they use for paint mixes usually have multiple variations of the same color, add in fading paint and sometimes yellowing clear coats from years of sun exposure and you realize it's not as simple as getting your paint code and you're done. If you can't spray it yourself, I would go to an automotive paint store in your area (Sherwin Williams people are usually very knowledgeable) and ask them about your idea of rolling it on and see what product they suggest. Rolling on a product that is meant to be sprayed can and will probably cause a lot of issues since the spray on products are meant to go on in thin coats with a flash time for the solvents to evaporate thoroughly before the next coat is applied. Rolling it on thick will probably cause adhesion issues, won't cure forever, and you might run into the same globby mess you just sanded off.

Like I said, the cheapest and easiest thing to do would be to go with a flat black spray bomb and call it good. I had my sport hood professionally painted by the best body shop in town but requested they NOT blend into the fenders, and even though it's a VERY good match, it's not perfect and the clear coat they used is yellowing at a different rate than the OEM finish. I should have gone flat black and put the money into something worthwhile.

Finally, if you're going to do your rockers with Herculiner, I think a black hood would look sweet and give it a cool Stormtrooper look. Just my opinion.
So after all the advice on this thread and after looking at this thread: https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/l.../#post51575103 I think that I am going to use either Herculiner, Durabak, or another similar coating on the hood. At the same time I am going to use the same product on my rocker panels. I have a couple of reasons for doing this:
1) Protect the rocker panels - I just moved up to 33X12.5R15's and they are wide! The stock mudflaps don't do much at all to prevent the tires from throwing stuff onto the truck. For example, it rained about a week ago and I can see how high the new wider tires throw dirt and other debris on the truck. I would like to add some protection the the rocker panels because they will take the worst beating.
2) Protect the hood - I don't know about you guys but my hood seems to be a magnet for rocks and other stuff that gets kicked up by cars in front of me. The front of my hood has countless dings and scratches where it was hit by debris. The protective liner should prevent these types of dings and scratches.
3) Looks - I think it will look pretty cool having the hood and rocker panels coated with the same liner. I think it would look out of place if just the hood was coated, but I think having the rocker panels coated as well would tie it together. Not to mention the black accents should really stand out against a white truck!

What do you think?
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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Flat Black will kill the glare you get from the sun and most of all the reflection you get from it on a nice bright day that said I would do it flat or satin black if it were mine but it's yours so good luck with whatever you do I like to see the finished product
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