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Fixing brakes- Doing the upgrade

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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by fasthorse67
What year Tundra had the 231mm rotor/caliper combo.? Also, will these fit under my wheels? I have 16" 5 spoke wheels, but the spokes are more rounded than the spokes above.
I did the 03 Tundra cal's & rotors i don't know if they will fit under your wheels
but there is a lot of room between the face of my wheel and cal
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 10:16 AM
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so do you have to change the caliper brackets also? i am on my 3rd set of rotors in the last 2 years, and my new rotors are starting to warp again. i am bummed.
nope no bracket change they bolt right up even the brake line is in the same spot so no bending of the line, just a little triming of the dust sheild

Im telling it was such an easy swap and no WARP its great

trust me I know how you feel!!!!!!!!!
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 06:06 AM
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It's been a while since I've been on the forum but I'm doing brakes over this weekend and I came across this thread and it sounds like a great upgrade. My question is, will this work on the 2nd gens? I've got a '95 and I'm not sure if the placing of caliper bolts holes, etc...are the same.
Thanks in advance.
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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I was out buying car polish and such today and got to asking the guy about a price quote. For this brake upgrade would be around $300. Not too bad. It would be nice to find a junk yard or a wrecked one, but up here those are hard to come by. Depending on how work goes, if I don't get my lift, I'll be doing this.
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Old May 22, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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i got me some calipers, $162 for the pair. Those suckers are HUGE!!! I got the big ones, cant wait to get them on, probably a couple weeks before i get a chance to get them on.
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Old May 23, 2009 | 09:46 PM
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Just refresh everyone who has logged on to this thread. I did this upgrade to my 1998 4runner with stock 16" OEM alloy wheels. I used the Tundra calipers and rotor from a 2001 Tundra which I beleive had the 199mm brakes. The only mod I had to do was to trim (file actually) the inner dust shield so the rotor would clear properly. Take a look at my write up. I explained and show you everything I dodo.

To answer the question on Gen 2, I do not believe this upgrade will work on your 1995. Totally different brakes. I would not even attempt. Another thing to remember is anytime you have to grind on a wheel or caliper to make iit clear can be an issue later. I would not recommend this mod if you have to do this. I was able to do my upgrade using the 199mm. I would encourage you to re-read my write up. Several other threads mention how to tell the difference between the two setups on the Tundra (199-231)

Good luck on your upgrade.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 08:42 AM
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Looky what i got


And they are the big ones


They are all toyota parts. Im gonna do the axle seals while im almost there, I figure why not get to the them before they blow. Originals just rolled over 150k
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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Done and oh baby are these smooth and sweet. Bolted right up and i can confirm the BIG 231 DO FIT ON THE STOCK 5 SPOKE STAR RIMS. No modification other then the dust shield required.
This came out so sweet!!! now i have to do the rears should be fun.
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 97ltd4x4
I bought mine reman from NAPA ..No problems w/cores.
i called NAPA and they said they were no longer available.

You have part numbers?
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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so are the LTD stock rims the same as the stock 5 spoke rims?
basically i am asking if i need the 199mm or the 231mm calipers.
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 06:35 AM
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How about does the 199mm clear the black 18 holes spare steel wheels we have on our 3rd gen? In case of a flat.
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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GSGALLANT - "Good writeup. Overall well written article. Just some additional info for you... The stock 16" steel wheels (2002 4Runner) fit over the 231mm Tundra calipers with no grinding of the wheels required. However, the stock spare steel wheel that came on my truck has no chance of fitting without rubbing, and no grinding of the wheel is possible to make it fit. If I get a flat up front, I have to move a rear tire up front, and put the spare on the back."

It seems 2002 steel spare is different from previous years steel spares. I was going to change all my 3 spoke alloy to the steelies , but I guess they won't work with Tundra brakes.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 08:51 AM
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As I've said before, discs don't get warped: http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp...rakedisk.shtml
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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Hey.... Is there a way to check to see if the 231s will fit aftermarket wheels with stock backspacing? Or has anyone did the upgrade with ProComp wheels? Should I just eyeball how much space I have now with stock calipers??

I know there are a lot of threads on this brake upgrade, but this is the largest and been around the longest. If I missed the answers to the questions I'm asking, sorry. Must have missed it.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by twitchee2
Done and oh baby are these smooth and sweet. Bolted right up and i can confirm the BIG 231 DO FIT ON THE STOCK 5 SPOKE STAR RIMS. No modification other then the dust shield required.
This came out so sweet!!! now i have to do the rears should be fun.
I picked up the 231 calipers, but the 4runner flex lines wont fit.

Did you use Tundra flex lines??
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