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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 01:24 PM
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explorer or 4Runner

whats better for off roadin, explorer or 4Runner
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 01:26 PM
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Which is tastier, apples or oranges?

Toyotas are FAR more reliable.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 01:33 PM
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Re: explorer or 4Runner

Originally posted by Retardriot427
whats better for off roadin, explorer or 4Runner
No offense, so please don't get upset...but...

You come to a Toyota forum and are asking this question in a 4Runner page...what do you think we will say?!?!

The 4Runner is hands down a better vehicle for offroading. No Ford is made for offroad. They are glorified mini-vans and can do only what they can do. 4Runners are built on truck frames and can do alot! Way better! :fireman:
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 02:07 PM
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Can we ban this idiot?
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 02:13 PM
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I can't think of a single acronym for Toyota. I can think of at least 3 for Ford:

F***ed on Race Day
Found On Road Dead
F***ed Over Rebuilt Dodge

Any others?
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by HaveBlue
I can't think of a single acronym for Toyota. I can think of at least 3 for Ford:

F***ed on Race Day
Found On Road Dead
F***ed Over Rebuilt Dodge

Any others?
Fix Or Repair Daily
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 02:15 PM
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Can we ban this idiot?
I really hope your are kidding NerfHerder-97SR5. It will take a lot more than this to be banned from our forums. If you don't like a topic you don't have to read it or reply. Calling someone an idiot like that is not cool.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 02:17 PM
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Oh OK, Just testing us. I got it:
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 02:23 PM
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That is his forum name jx....Would you prefer that I called him by sir?
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 02:24 PM
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ahh..nm I thought it was retardIDIOT not retardRIOT....Must have got my non-intelligent slang terms mixed up
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 02:32 PM
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That said, i'll now give my answer.

In addition to being among the best built and must reliable vehicles ever, Toyotas come with a LOT more ground clearance than Exploders. On Explorers the transfer case is electricly controled and the system is prone to shorting out if they get wet. My neighbor has a '98 Exploder and uses it to tow a boat. He is always has problems getting 4 wheel drive every time he puts the rear end in the lake. He hates that thing but he owes more on it than it is worth so he won't sell it.

The newest Toyota 4x4s also have electric transfer cases but they seem to be much more water resistant than the Fords. On the older Toys like mine 4 wheel drive is controlled by a lever. Pull the lever, the gears move, every time. There is no electronic sensors or computer functions that have to be satisfied and completed before the transfer gears will engage.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by NerfHerder-97SR5-
That is his forum name jx....Would you prefer that I called him by sir?
Calling someone sir, even sarcasticly, is far better than calling them an idiot by my way of thinking. So, yes, I'd prefer that, but the world is an imperfect place and what I prefer shouldn't matter to everyone else.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 02:52 PM
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I agree 100% with all of you who say that 4runners are by far superior. even my 2wd surprised me on things that my friend's lifted Ranger had more trouble than i did.
but... i always have thought it was cool that some of the older explorers had a solid front axle. Just my $.02

-Casey
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 02:55 PM
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aside

Kind of a funny typo made by you JX.

Spelled explorer "exploder"

lol,
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 03:19 PM
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Re: aside

Originally posted by Skydigger
Kind of a funny typo made by you JX.

Spelled explorer "exploder"

lol,
I dont think it was a typo
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 03:24 PM
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I'm sure it's just my own prejudice, but I've never seen a new Explorer that I thought was as good as even an old 4Runner.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 03:45 PM
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Just watch the commercials, toyota always show 4Runners offroad while Ford shows Explores with mom and the kids. They know that no Explores will ever go off-road. I agree with BTOWN, Ford SUV's are nothing but glorified minivans.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 05:23 PM
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im asking because i have a 1993 Explorer right now and ive gone through a new brake system, new front suspension, new tranny, etc. nothing but problems
but, the explorer has a solid front axle
do 4Runners?
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 05:41 PM
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4Runners from '84 and '85 have the solid axle.
'86 on up to present have IFS.

Nothing wrong with IFS, unless you are into heavy duty rock crawling where you need the exta articualtion.

Many take the IFS rigs and torch of the front and do a solid axle swap.
Here is one such
post.

The nice thing about doing a SAS on a newer rig is the interiors are roomier, and often also have the V6 engines.

Another nicely done SAS on an '89 Extracab that belongs to Leonel is here.

I think you will find that most Toy owners have nothing but praise for their rigs. Old or new.
I am on my 3rd Toy now, and have not had any major thing needed to be done except for the fuel injectors pulled on my present rig and cleaned.

My previous Toy (may it rest in peace, or pieces) had 110K on it when it got totaled.
The only thing I did to it was change the oil, and the spark plugs 3 times.
And a front brake job at around 70K, never touched the rotors on it.
That truck was a work horse with a 22RE engine, and often pulled this tent trailer over steep mountain passes.

The '79 20R engine equiped 2WD truck I had first I bought with 170K on it.
Drove it for a few years, and only had to replace the head gasket.

Toyota's are very reliable, and easy to work on.
So you might say I'm sold on Toyota's reliability, and my next rig will be a Toyota also.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 08:13 PM
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how much money would it cost to convert to solid axle
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