Canadian Bumpers
03-14-2003, 04:29 PM
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Hey zedex,
Nice bumper. In my opinion, if the bumper you are building has a concealed winch area and beefy bars up top like the TJM-15, $700 USD is a good deal. If it's just like the one shown w/no beefy bars and the winch wide open, I think $700 is way too much.
Are the bumpers you're building compatible w/airbags? And how much do they weigh in at?
Al
Nice bumper. In my opinion, if the bumper you are building has a concealed winch area and beefy bars up top like the TJM-15, $700 USD is a good deal. If it's just like the one shown w/no beefy bars and the winch wide open, I think $700 is way too much.
Are the bumpers you're building compatible w/airbags? And how much do they weigh in at?
Al
03-14-2003, 04:49 PM
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Hi Hboss. They all have an enclosed winch area. I could build some bars that bolt on. But i though....naaaaaa....Im not biffin kangaroos off the road...If the demand is there though. I will build some.
As for the airbag thing. If you get in an accident its going to crush. Of course i have never tested it and im never going to i hope.
I talked to toyota about the airbags. They said there are several criteria that have to be set for the airbags to go off. I saw no crush sensors on the front of my truck. I think its a deceleration sensor that will trigger the airbags.
And the bumper uses all stock bumper mounts. So those babies will shear if your in an accident.
You bring up an interesting topic though. ARB has a write up on their bumpers being airbag compatible. But does that include if you have a winch bolted in the bumper. A winch is a heavy chunk of mass. Will the airbags deploy when the winch is acting as yet another bumper.
I dunno.
Weight??? I really dont know. I would say 60...70 lbs?
Next one i build i will weigh it.
As for the airbag thing. If you get in an accident its going to crush. Of course i have never tested it and im never going to i hope.
I talked to toyota about the airbags. They said there are several criteria that have to be set for the airbags to go off. I saw no crush sensors on the front of my truck. I think its a deceleration sensor that will trigger the airbags.
And the bumper uses all stock bumper mounts. So those babies will shear if your in an accident.
You bring up an interesting topic though. ARB has a write up on their bumpers being airbag compatible. But does that include if you have a winch bolted in the bumper. A winch is a heavy chunk of mass. Will the airbags deploy when the winch is acting as yet another bumper.
I dunno.
Weight??? I really dont know. I would say 60...70 lbs?
Next one i build i will weigh it.
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03-14-2003, 08:34 PM
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Im thinkin $600 US. That might be better. The tacoma bumper im thinking 600. The forerunner would probably be more like $650. I havent built one yet but i know it would be more steel. And its alot more complicated.
03-14-2003, 09:31 PM
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I only mention it to you in relation to your pricing, because you asked if $700 seems fair or out of touch. Generally, ARB w/bull bars go for about $650 and TJM w/bull bars go for between $700-$720.
The bumpers w/o bull bars up top (TJM-17 for instance) are only about $440, which is why I said $700 would be considered way too much.
Just hoping to help out a fellah canuck.
Either way, they are nice bumpers you're makin'!
The bumpers w/o bull bars up top (TJM-17 for instance) are only about $440, which is why I said $700 would be considered way too much.
Just hoping to help out a fellah canuck.
Either way, they are nice bumpers you're makin'!
03-15-2003, 06:26 AM
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Hi Mack. Penticton. B.C.
HBOSS. Thanks. Appreciate it.
Here is the main difference between my bumpers and others.
tjm, arb bumpers are formed in a machine. They are nice bumpers. My bumpers are welded together with seperate pieces. Where each piece meets there is a continuous weld. Then there is another piece of steel welded on an angle. End result is structural rigidity. You cant compare that to a formed bumper.
My bumpers are hand cut,hand welded, hand ground, hand drilled,hand sandblasted, and hand powdercoated. Very labour intensive. And all out of 10 guage steel.
I cant compete with a formed by a machine bumper in price. Its impossible.
But in quality and strength it more than competes. And it looks ok as well which is bonus.
Handbuilt VS machine punched.
Homemade soup???? or soup from a can.
Its just another choice out there.
HBOSS. Thanks. Appreciate it.
Here is the main difference between my bumpers and others.
tjm, arb bumpers are formed in a machine. They are nice bumpers. My bumpers are welded together with seperate pieces. Where each piece meets there is a continuous weld. Then there is another piece of steel welded on an angle. End result is structural rigidity. You cant compare that to a formed bumper.
My bumpers are hand cut,hand welded, hand ground, hand drilled,hand sandblasted, and hand powdercoated. Very labour intensive. And all out of 10 guage steel.
I cant compete with a formed by a machine bumper in price. Its impossible.
But in quality and strength it more than competes. And it looks ok as well which is bonus.
Handbuilt VS machine punched.
Homemade soup???? or soup from a can.
Its just another choice out there.
03-15-2003, 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by zedex
Hi Mack. Penticton. B.C.
HBOSS. Thanks. Appreciate it.
Here is the main difference between my bumpers and others.
tjm, arb bumpers are formed in a machine. They are nice bumpers. My bumpers are welded together with seperate pieces. Where each piece meets there is a continuous weld. Then there is another piece of steel welded on an angle. End result is structural rigidity. You cant compare that to a formed bumper.
My bumpers are hand cut,hand welded, hand ground, hand drilled,hand sandblasted, and hand powdercoated. Very labour intensive. And all out of 10 guage steel.
I cant compete with a formed by a machine bumper in price. Its impossible.
But in quality and strength it more than competes. And it looks ok as well which is bonus.
Handbuilt VS machine punched.
Homemade soup???? or soup from a can.
Its just another choice out there.
Hi Mack. Penticton. B.C.
HBOSS. Thanks. Appreciate it.
Here is the main difference between my bumpers and others.
tjm, arb bumpers are formed in a machine. They are nice bumpers. My bumpers are welded together with seperate pieces. Where each piece meets there is a continuous weld. Then there is another piece of steel welded on an angle. End result is structural rigidity. You cant compare that to a formed bumper.
My bumpers are hand cut,hand welded, hand ground, hand drilled,hand sandblasted, and hand powdercoated. Very labour intensive. And all out of 10 guage steel.
I cant compete with a formed by a machine bumper in price. Its impossible.
But in quality and strength it more than competes. And it looks ok as well which is bonus.
Handbuilt VS machine punched.
Homemade soup???? or soup from a can.
Its just another choice out there.
At least I do understand now why the price needs to be higher. Thank you for clarifying, zedex.Al
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