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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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Bilsteins installed-Mixed emotions

The good.
Firm ride.
Well controlled cornering and street dip recoil.

The bad.
The front end body is higher.
More wheel well showing.

Will the front end drop a bit after break in?

$185 labor install.
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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Re: Bilsteins installed-Mixed emotions

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$185 labor install.
ouch.
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 12:16 PM
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Whaddya mean 'higher'? By how much? If anything, it should be less than 3/8 inch.

Look at the lower spring perch, the perch should have a center hump going inside the spring to keep the spring centered. If they installed the spring perch upside down, then you'd get about 1.5 inches of lift, and an unstable front spring.


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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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"Whaddya mean 'higher'? By how much? If anything, it should be less than 3/8 inch.

Look at the lower spring perch, the perch should have a center hump going inside the spring to keep the spring centered. If they installed the spring perch upside down, then you'd get about 1.5 inches of lift, and an unstable front spring"



You are soooo right,Unhappy99!
I called Bilstein and the tech told me it's usually one of two mistake made by the installer.
1.Spring not seated at the top right.
2.Metal collar at bottom of spring is installed upside down.

#2!

My mechanoic showed me the directions and the directions are a bit confusing.
The direction shows a drawing of the collar backwards.
Then the same drawing with an "X" through it.
Confusing.
Anyway the truck is at his shop and will be done tomorow.
The front should drop an inch or two.

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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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Your mechanic neither can read directions, nor understands mechanics. Even if there were no directions, how does he/she expect the spring to remain centered on its perch when the centering section of the perch is upside down? The spring will fall off its perch.

And the rest is intuitively obvious....
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by Unhappy99
Your mechanic neither can read directions, nor understands mechanics. Even if there were no directions, how does he/she expect the spring to remain centered on its perch when the centering section of the perch is upside down? The spring will fall off its perch.

And the rest is intuitively obvious....
You're right.
I'm surprised he screwed up.
I've been dealing with this guy for 20 years.
Very busy shop with a great rep.
Never had a problem.

We're human and make mistakes.
Even obvious ones.

Thanks for your imput and the link.
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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Yes, mistakes do happen. I'm just a little hard on people when I expect them to know their jobs.

In any case, emotions will unmix tomorrow. Bilsteins ROCK!!!
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by Unhappy99

In any case, emotions will unmix tomorrow. Bilsteins ROCK!!!

I hope you're right...again.
I'll let you know.
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 02:55 PM
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Collar

Happened to me at a Toyota dealership. They installed the collar upside down.
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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Re: Collar

Originally posted by mochoajr
Happened to me at a Toyota dealership. They installed the collar upside down.
Probably the issue. Take and post a pic.
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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Re: Re: Collar

Originally posted by sschaefer3
Probably the issue. Take and post a pic.
Compliments of unhappy99.

http://www.daliracing.com/v666-5/cat...erly/index.cfm
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 03:17 PM
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My experience with Bilsteins have been very very good.
Billys (as I call them) are firm on the road but, aid reducing vehicle leaning in turns. I have had Billys on my old 2wd Taco, older 2wd Nissan 2wd and I have a second set on my 4wd Hilux. Combine Billys with roadmaster active suspension makes trailing a breeze.

Here's a link regarding roadmaster active suspension.

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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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i paid $200 for install but bilsteins actually gave me about 1/2-1/4inch lift evenly
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 05:40 PM
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Bilsteins

Give the Bilsteins time, the ride is very good. It evened out my 4runner, plus when I installed the TJM T-17, it didn't sag.
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 05:49 PM
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Bilsteins

Give the Bilsteins time, the ride is very good. It evened out my 4runner, plus when I installed the TJM T-17, it didn't sag.
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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I'm getting my rear Bils installed as part of my rear spring recall and the fronts will be handles by a friend and myself and then i'll just have to pay for a realignment;I'll also be aware that we install the fronts right side up.
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 08:24 PM
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red: give the bils sometime. i thought the ride was a little choppy but after about two weeks, the shocks really settled and mellowed out the ride. still firm, but mellowed out.

X-AWD: use a wall mounted spring compressor for the fronts or just have them done. you don't wanna lose your head over this.

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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 08:39 AM
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Thanks Bob for the advice and we'll do that.
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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by Bob_98SR5
red: give the bils sometime. i thought the ride was a little choppy but after about two weeks, the shocks really settled and mellowed out the ride. still firm, but mellowed out.

X-AWD: use a wall mounted spring compressor for the fronts or just have them done. you don't wanna lose your head over this.

bob
Thanks for the reply,Bob.
I posted earlier that I think the Bilsteins are great right now.
You mean they'll get even better?
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