glad i read this thread, will have to do this if i put in a winch,

 

does anyone know it the TJM has the same problem? specifically the t-15 for 3rd gen?

 

The TJM brackets were thoughtfully designed correctly. no mods needed on them. 4 bolts through each frame rail. Although the plate could have been a little thicker and stronger, but I haven't had any flex or bending while winching, ecerything holds pretty well.

 

Mess up the frame my ass. More like total it. When I designed my bumper I worked with another guy who builds them customly and his truck was in collison at 55mph. Bent 1 mount over an inch. Bent the frame of the truck in 8 places. I've seen the TJM used and have seen them flex. That would definately be the first thing to go in a wreck. They don't seem as stout as an ARB but they definately don't have issues with mounting.

 

I hit somebody, didn't do snot to my frame or bumper. It just pushed one side in a little so I push up against a tree in the woods and evened it out, hehe. it doesn't flex while winching either.

 

They aren't designed to take a 55 mph hit. more like around 5-10 mph.

 

Anyone know if this is still a problem? I'm looking into an ARB but don't have the resources or access to the resources to do the mod myself.

 

hey... i bought my ARB about 2 years ago... i know i dont have end caps, but right now i dont have any resources (welder, steel....) anyone know how much it would cost to pay someone to make these?

 

oh, and ive never seen that my bumper was wobbly or unsturdy untill i got into a wreck in feb. so i need to replace the mounts anyways

 

I rear ended someone in my 99 Taco going somewhere between 5 and 10 mph. I totaled my stock plastic excuse for a bumper mind you it was only 10f outside. It was cheeper for me to replace my stock plastic cover with an ARB, so that is what i did. My buddy who works at a shop installed it for me. In my accident i bent the bump stops/end caps. We scraped them and just welded the brackets that came with the bumper to the frame, then just bolted the bumper to the brackets. Wasn't a big deal at all and did not require additional resources or fabrication. Just removed both end caps and welded on the brackets. I would post pics but i have since sold the my 99.