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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 09:24 PM
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air/fuel ratio gauge

i have an autometer air/fuel ratio gauge and was just wondering if it is supposed to bounce back and forth or just sit still and slowly move.
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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 09:31 PM
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Sounds like you do not have a wideband o2 sensor, or a/f gauge. That's okay. In your case it will only be accurate (and should also be stable) at WOT. (Wide open throttle)

What kind of results are you seeing at WOT?

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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 09:53 PM
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Sounds like you do not have a wideband o2 sensor, or a/f gauge. That's okay. In your case it will only be accurate (and should also be stable) at WOT. (Wide open throttle)

What kind of results are you seeing at WOT?

Dan

at WOT only the last 2 green lights(rich) are the only ones lighted up
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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 10:42 PM
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What year 3.4 and just where did you tap into the O2 sensor? the reaso I ask I have one also and it says not to tap into a Shielded wire but the wiring digram I have says the wire going into the ECU is shielded????? Let me know THANKS

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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 07:30 AM
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What year 3.4 and just where did you tap into the O2 sensor? the reaso I ask I have one also and it says not to tap into a Shielded wire but the wiring digram I have says the wire going into the ECU is shielded????? Let me know THANKS

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i have a 01 taco. i tapped into the second o2 sensor on the purple wire. how do you know if the wire is sheilded? thanks
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 07:34 AM
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That is what my wiring diagram says, I don't know if it makes a difference though? Do you have 2 o2 sensors? and why the back one and not the front one? sorry for all the ?'s I'm just not that good at electrical crap...........

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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 09:19 AM
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Just fyi, your 2001 has a wideband O2 sensor which is incompatible with your Autometer guage. You will have to either get an old style narrowband O2 sensor off an older toyota, or buy the narrowband O2 sensor kit from autometer and have it welded into your exhaust. gl
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 09:42 AM
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That is what my wiring diagram says, I don't know if it makes a difference though? Do you have 2 o2 sensors? and why the back one and not the front one? sorry for all the ?'s I'm just not that good at electrical crap...........

yea i have 2 o2 sensors. i tried connecting the o2 sensor in the front but it wouldnt work ,i dunno why, the last o2 sensor near the middle of the truck is the one that worked for me.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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Just fyi, your 2001 has a wideband O2 sensor which is incompatible with your Autometer guage. You will have to either get an old style narrowband O2 sensor off an older toyota, or buy the narrowband O2 sensor kit from autometer and have it welded into your exhaust. gl
so i can either can an o2 sensor from an older toyota ... how much older?
thanks
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 10:13 AM
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Re: air/fuel ratio gauge

Originally posted by 3.4v6
i have an autometer air/fuel ratio gauge and was just wondering if it is supposed to bounce back and forth or just sit still and slowly move.
yes, it's called "dithering," and it's the result of the system being in a "closed loop" circuit, where the ECU is trying to find the best A/F ratio. it should dither at a rate of at least once every two seconds (0.5Hz).

under heavy (>80%) throttle, the ECU switches into "open loop," and that is where the tuning occurs. with an s/c, the last two lights should light up (A/F ratio of 13:1 to 12.5:1).

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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by heliax
Just fyi, your 2001 has a wideband O2 sensor which is incompatible with your Autometer guage. You will have to either get an old style narrowband O2 sensor off an older toyota, or buy the narrowband O2 sensor kit from autometer and have it welded into your exhaust. gl

it doesn't sounds like he has the newer A/F meter . . . he would be reading a constant 3.3V if he did. sounds like, for some reason, he has a truck with an EGO . . . maybe it was an out-of-state truck?

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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 01:11 PM
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sounds like, for some reason, he has a truck with an EGO . . . maybe it was an out-of-state truck?
Yeah I was thinkin that as well...to be honest, I'm not sure how the autometer gauge would react is why I didn't mention it. I'm guessin it would be blank if it's a WB O2...but if it is showing the last two leds at WOT hmm
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 01:44 PM
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the AM guage is just like SS gauge . . . a series of LED's with different in-line resistors, that light up at particular voltages in the 0-1V range, which is what the output of the EGO is. you could get by with just a voltmeter to tune with if you wanted.

this is for the SS guage:

http://www.splitsec.com/products/arm1/arm1ds.htm

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