View Poll Results: Would you buy an engine swap kit?
Hell YES, i have a NEED FOR SPEED



32
24.43%
YES, but i gotta save the money up 1st



33
25.19%
Possibly, depends on the price



44
33.59%
doubful, im poor or not good at mods



11
8.40%
HELL NO, im keepin my 3.0



11
8.40%
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2nd Gens, who wants an engine swap?
#43
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From: levin,new zealand
#44
yea thats a crazy rig, i still wanna do the jz engine so i can run good HP numbers without having to turbo charge it, yea boost is nice but it just makes everything that much more complex and unreliable IMO
#46
v-8 is getting into the territory of being too heavy for the stock suspension, we still have to find out if the I-6 is any significant increase in weight. Not alot you can do with t-bars to compensate for the increased weight, youd have to torque them up so tight theyd prob fatigue real fast. now if you had a solid axle and leaf springs such issues arent difficult to solve
#47
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From: levin,new zealand
surely the lexus v8 would be as light as a six due to it being alloy........
i will do sum homework on it.over here they put them into suzukis but they are so hard to come by.
i'll let you know of my finds.
i will do sum homework on it.over here they put them into suzukis but they are so hard to come by.
i'll let you know of my finds.
#50
2JZ is 3.0 L. I posted all the specs on the first page about halfway down. You are correct, the 2JZ is a very heavy engine. If it can be held, considering it is iron, then an alloy V8 probably could also. The 2JZ-GE can easily be modified up to around 700hp. However, that would require extensive modification to other systems. I believe Hulk Hogan has a 2JZ Supra that has around 1400 hp.
#51
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From: levin,new zealand
i just got a speeding ticket for 111kmh and an $80 bill.i don't think i need more power just low fuel consumption......i may have to look at a 3.5dturbo from the landcruiser powerful enough for offroad with re-jetting yet cheaper to run.
#52
NCSU-4runner, have you ever done one before. Don't really want to make things difficult for you, but you are in unknown territory.
Having done 10 supra conversions, and another 3 lined up, making a kit is pretty much impossible. You can somewhat make a starter kit, but the rest needs to be custom.
Here are some determining factors that you need to consider that will be different in many vehicles.
solid axle
body lift
drivetrain lift
auto/manual
wiring will be different from year to year
22R or v6
and a bunch of other problems
A kit would have to be able to accomadate all of these options becaus that will change. Not to mention that you will have to supply custom oil pan and oil pickup for every conversion that is not solid axle.
The 2JZ is also over 1 inch longer than the 7M. You barely have enough room to fit a 7M let alone a 2JZ without permanant changes.
The thing about a conversion kit, is most people won't want to hack out the radiator support, smash thier firewall, or cut out the tranny tunnel.
Every conversion I have done has been different, and the next 3 will also come with thier own challenges.
I am actually putting together a 7M conversion starter kit, but that is all it is. A starter kit. Custom mods will still be required.
Having done 10 supra conversions, and another 3 lined up, making a kit is pretty much impossible. You can somewhat make a starter kit, but the rest needs to be custom.
Here are some determining factors that you need to consider that will be different in many vehicles.
solid axle
body lift
drivetrain lift
auto/manual
wiring will be different from year to year
22R or v6
and a bunch of other problems
A kit would have to be able to accomadate all of these options becaus that will change. Not to mention that you will have to supply custom oil pan and oil pickup for every conversion that is not solid axle.
The 2JZ is also over 1 inch longer than the 7M. You barely have enough room to fit a 7M let alone a 2JZ without permanant changes.
The thing about a conversion kit, is most people won't want to hack out the radiator support, smash thier firewall, or cut out the tranny tunnel.
Every conversion I have done has been different, and the next 3 will also come with thier own challenges.
I am actually putting together a 7M conversion starter kit, but that is all it is. A starter kit. Custom mods will still be required.
#53
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From: levin,new zealand
to modifya 4runner to an extreme is pointless over here due to the fact the landcruiser is the 4by4 in clubs mostly used next to that is a suzuki.only the rich have 4runners and they never see 4wheeldrive.the biggest tire available is a 35 of a price around$700 each.parts are hard to find apart from the first generatiom.we have avalible the 3.0,3.0td,4.2,4.2d and4.2dt motors and thats really it.to buy a supra engine would be more than the truck is worth.let alone installing it.you can't even get headers for the v6 thats how behind we are.althugh a supra could be first in New Zealand.....but i have seen a rotary in a first gen it was unreal but that was for trails only so they didnt need certifercation.but id love to be differnt.....
cheers for that info
cheers for that info
#54
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From: Oklahoma city
SuperRunner.
Can I just send my 88' over and have you stick in a Supra motor? I'll even throw in $50 and a case of beer!
(old milwacky of course)
Just how hard is it to put in a supra motor? moderate or hard. And what is the average cost of such a deed.
Can I just send my 88' over and have you stick in a Supra motor? I'll even throw in $50 and a case of beer!
(old milwacky of course)Just how hard is it to put in a supra motor? moderate or hard. And what is the average cost of such a deed.
#55
Originally posted by livelarg
SuperRunner.
Can I just send my 88' over and have you stick in a Supra motor? I'll even throw in $50 and a case of beer!
(old milwacky of course)
Just how hard is it to put in a supra motor? moderate or hard. And what is the average cost of such a deed.
SuperRunner.
Can I just send my 88' over and have you stick in a Supra motor? I'll even throw in $50 and a case of beer!
(old milwacky of course)Just how hard is it to put in a supra motor? moderate or hard. And what is the average cost of such a deed.
Range is anywere between $3500 - $6000. It all depends on what you want, and how much power you want.
Oh, and make that Root Beer.
#56
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From: Oklahoma city
I will send over a case of IBC root beer!
Is that $3500-$6000 with you doing it? or is that the cost with me doing it. The cost of me doing it will be $3500-$6000 plus the cost of someone re-doing it right!
I have been looking for the cost of engines around here. Looking at a turbo. I figure as ong as I am doing it, might as well get as much power as possible. That way at least I won't have to worry about power mods in the future.
BTW, what is is motor name of the supra and supra turbo that is best for this swap?
Is that $3500-$6000 with you doing it? or is that the cost with me doing it. The cost of me doing it will be $3500-$6000 plus the cost of someone re-doing it right!
I have been looking for the cost of engines around here. Looking at a turbo. I figure as ong as I am doing it, might as well get as much power as possible. That way at least I won't have to worry about power mods in the future.
BTW, what is is motor name of the supra and supra turbo that is best for this swap?
Last edited by livelarg; Jul 30, 2003 at 08:26 AM.
#57
Originally posted by livelarg
I will send over a case of IBC root beer!
Is that $3500-$6000 with you doing it? or is that the cost with me doing it. The cost of me doing it will be $3500-$6000 plus the cost of someone re-doing it right!
I have been looking for the cost of engines around here. Looking at a turbo. I figure as ong as I am doing it, might as well get as much power as possible. That way at least I won't have to worry about power mods in the future.
I will send over a case of IBC root beer!
Is that $3500-$6000 with you doing it? or is that the cost with me doing it. The cost of me doing it will be $3500-$6000 plus the cost of someone re-doing it right!
I have been looking for the cost of engines around here. Looking at a turbo. I figure as ong as I am doing it, might as well get as much power as possible. That way at least I won't have to worry about power mods in the future.
If you yourself wanted to do it, you can probably do it for around $2K if you can get a good deal on parts. But I will tell you. It is not easy.
The current one I am on right now, I have around 60 hours into it. But I also rebuilt the motor. (I won't do that again unless I am paid for the extra time).
The fasted I have done one was in 22 hours. But I had help.
I will not be doing any swaps after the 9th of august. I will be taking a break for the rest of the month. Have some hikes I want to do before the summer is over. I will start back up in September, which I will already have one as soon as I start up again.
Last edited by SuperRunner; Jul 30, 2003 at 08:34 AM.
#58
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From: Oklahoma city
450 HP is a bit more than I need, I'm thinking. I would be happy with about 225-250 HP if the torque was over 250. That is all I really would want. Any more I am looking at alot of drivetrain mods.
I have the 3.0 with a 5 spd. I have actually put a few engines in and out of jeeps and such. This would be the first swap that I have done though. Is there a place that has some basic info on where to start and possible parts that I will ned to complete the task?
have been following the post, hoping to get ideas. That is why I liked the idea of a kit for the install.
I have the 3.0 with a 5 spd. I have actually put a few engines in and out of jeeps and such. This would be the first swap that I have done though. Is there a place that has some basic info on where to start and possible parts that I will ned to complete the task?
have been following the post, hoping to get ideas. That is why I liked the idea of a kit for the install.
#59
Originally posted by livelarg
450 HP is a bit more than I need, I'm thinking. I would be happy with about 225-250 HP if the torque was over 250. That is all I really would want. Any more I am looking at alot of drivetrain mods.
I have the 3.0 with a 5 spd. I have actually put a few engines in and out of jeeps and such. This would be the first swap that I have done though. Is there a place that has some basic info on where to start and possible parts that I will ned to complete the task?
have been following the post, hoping to get ideas. That is why I liked the idea of a kit for the install.
450 HP is a bit more than I need, I'm thinking. I would be happy with about 225-250 HP if the torque was over 250. That is all I really would want. Any more I am looking at alot of drivetrain mods.
I have the 3.0 with a 5 spd. I have actually put a few engines in and out of jeeps and such. This would be the first swap that I have done though. Is there a place that has some basic info on where to start and possible parts that I will ned to complete the task?
have been following the post, hoping to get ideas. That is why I liked the idea of a kit for the install.
And I will be video taping the one to be completed on the 9th.
#60
Ok, now we know its possible. Heres a 2JZ-GTE inside a 93 Toyota Pickup. Btw, this one has 700+HP with a completely stock head and block.
The stock transmission was replaced with a 2-speed Powerglide. Attaching the GM tranny to the Toyota powerplant was made possible using a custom Super-T adapter plate. A Turbonetics T72 turbo is fed through a custom tubular Super-T Motorsports manifold and exhaust gasses are pushed through a 4 inch downpipe which exits through the passenger-side fender while An SDS computer controls fuel and spark. The truck's first dyno outing showed numbers in excess of 700 horsepower (crank) without nitrous. Off the trailer on it's first outing the truck ran a 10.5@132 MPH. The 2JZ head and block are 100% completely stock
The stock transmission was replaced with a 2-speed Powerglide. Attaching the GM tranny to the Toyota powerplant was made possible using a custom Super-T adapter plate. A Turbonetics T72 turbo is fed through a custom tubular Super-T Motorsports manifold and exhaust gasses are pushed through a 4 inch downpipe which exits through the passenger-side fender while An SDS computer controls fuel and spark. The truck's first dyno outing showed numbers in excess of 700 horsepower (crank) without nitrous. Off the trailer on it's first outing the truck ran a 10.5@132 MPH. The 2JZ head and block are 100% completely stock
Last edited by prolax13; Jul 30, 2003 at 10:45 AM.

