Stump1883

Okay guys and gals, I have a set of 285 Desintation MTs sitting in my garage now becuase they're rubbing on my upper control arms. I know plenty of people run 285s with no drama, and the only reason I can think up is because I have the 5 spoke Toyota wheels and they seem to have less backspaing than the other wheels Toyota used. Is anyone running 285s on these wheels w/o using spacers or moified control arms? Also can you guys help me find a good deal on wheel spacers or new control arms if that's what it's going to take? Any input is welcome, thanks everyone.

-Scott

2wheelBLACKOUT

is your 4runner lifted..?

r0cky

how badly are they rubbing? you could always grind a bit off the upper arms ... but i guess you're leaning more toward wheel spacers or new control arms? you can get some steel wheels for cheap ... perhaps look into getting some new wheels with more backspacing ... if you're already rubbing the control arms, i'm not sure how much help it would be to just get new control arms -- i know the aftermarket ones are a bit less bulky, but the question is are they so much less bulky that they'll avoid hitting the tires completely?

Albuquerque Jim

Try these...SS Shaved Arms they are awesome.

r0cky

I did that with my 4th gen. stuff and it worked great!

FilthyRich

I don't like wheel spacers for a DD,
How about selling the 5 stars and getting some 16x8s

r0cky

That would be the best option, if it's one you'd consider.

Flamedx4

I ran them (1/4" spacers) on the front for 15 years with no problems. There are many threads about this.

Adam F

Same here. They've been on my 96 4Runner for about 6 years now (my cousin owns it now) with NO problems.

montypower

If you want my stock upper a-arms... You could grind them down... Save some bucks and keep from messing up yours. How about $75 shipped? I went to Total Chaos.

bamachem

you can't run 285's on toyota 16x7's w/ 4.375" backspacing w/o using altered/aftermarket upper arms or some spacers.

the BEST thing to do would be to sell your 16x7 5-star wheels and buy some 16x8's w/ 4.5" BS like the LX450 wheels that filthyrich has for sale. it would be about a wash after you sold yours and bought his. then you don't have to do a thing to run 285's or even 305's.

the NEXT BEST thing is to alter your upper arms like SS3 did w/ his set or buy a set from him. that way you retain stock upper geometry and can still clear them. personally, i'd do this before i got aftermarket upper arms.

if you do spacers:
best to go w/ the marlin spacers that are 1.5" cause they attach to your lugs and then provide new lugs at the extended reach so that you have full strength holding your front wheels on.

Stump1883

I've never seen 285s interfear with the A-arms like this before, the tires are no where near even mounting up, they hardly hang on the studs, let alone come near mounting. The tire shop even had a set of 1/2" spacers rushed over to me, to see if that would help, but that was a no go. I would like to get some new wheels like the LX450 ones, but I'm not big on the turn around time, and I'm it's not a said deal that mine would sell soon enough. But it seems like the most obvious choice to break even, wheel spacers are gonna run me $150+ no matter what.

If I was to go with spacers like Marlin's that fit over the studs and provide new ones(like the 1.5" spacers), are these safer than the autozone ones, or would you guys still be learly of spacers like this?

Eric PM if you still have those Lexus wheels and how much your looking for them and we might get something going.

garrett1478

is there a difference in the backspacing between the limited and regular 3 point wheels? cause there are quite a few people in this thread (https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/285s-stock-wheels-safe-71610/) that say they have 285s on stock wheels with no problems... maybe its just that specific tire?

tarheelrunner

I don't really understand why they would be rubbing that bad, I've got 285s on stock 16x7s and they worked fine with no mods. Anyway, I ended up buying the Marlin 1.5" spacers just to get the tires out from under the limited flares so I could actually see some tread! These spacers have worked out fine for me so far, and it definitely gives a more aggresive look. They feel safe of the road at speeds of 70+, so I would say that might be your most economic option.

Stump1883

Well after browsing that list I see at least 3 people with the same wheels and 285's, and one I'm darn sure running the Destination MTs with the same wheels, what else could be going on here. I don't want to spend $115 to get spacers or go change wheels I love these wheels.

waskillywabbit

iTrader: (-1)

I think the spacers like bamachem is talking about come in more thicknesses than 1.5"...but whatever you do if you go the spacer route w/ the wheel studs in the spacers...put them on with RED loctite...so they don't come off at will.

I think you just aren't holding your mouth right Scott...try it like this and then put the tires on!

Stump1883

I think I already tried that Brina, in fact is was more like this when they called me into the shop area to gawk at the fitment issue. A guy on here says he runs 1/4" spacers to fix the rub, but mine won't even mount, WTF is going on here, the southern batch of these tires must be cursed.

garrett1478

was your entire truck on a lift when they showed you that? cause don't they fit worse when the suspension is at full droop like that?

Stump1883

Yeah the suspension was a full drop in the shop, but I would hope it would fit at least a little bit better than what it was, I'm jsut either going with the spacers or praying to the wheel gods to fix whatever the heck is going on here. Hopefulyl I can post up some sucessful pcitures here soon enough, wish me luck or add in whatever else you guys might come up with.

bamachem

put your 5-stars up for sale on the board or on ebay for a 3-day auction. they're worth about $350-$400.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999-...QQcmdZViewItem

then, buy eric's LX wheels shipped for $550. you can do that on a CC if you have one and then pay it off when you get the $ from your wheels so you don't sit on blocks. or, you can stipulate that you will ship the 5-star wheels approx 5 days after payment to give you time to have them removed and packaged. eric is close to you, so UPS Ground would probably be 1-2 days at most. you could get the LX wheels, have the MT's put on them and dismount the 5-stars, box them up and ship them in the 5 day timeframe easily.

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71213

it would cost you about $150-$200 to upgrade to the LX wheels and you're going to spend that on the Marlin Spacers anyway....