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1996 4Runner Straight Axle Conversion Web Cam - March 15, 2006

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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 06:51 AM
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work of art. i want one. i'll pay you in fat tire.

day off? are you feeling your age or sumpin'???
Yeah, that was all heavy line stuff, that axle is freakin heavy.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 07:49 AM
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god that thing is beastly.

im new around here, but i know quality work when i see it, and everything that comes from sonoran steel seems to be top notch. great job.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 09:39 AM
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god that thing is beastly.

im new around here, but i know quality work when i see it, and everything that comes from sonoran steel seems to be top notch. great job.

Sure is, too bad this is Steve's swan song for swapping late model rigs. Maybe he'll see it makes him feel "young again" and keep up the steller work.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 07:26 AM
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It's a big job. But it pays really well. I'll do it if you can afford it.

Back at it today. First up is the stacked plate tranny coloer that will be used for the super duper PS cooler.

Stubbs tiped me off to this jem. High volume, small size and max cooling. Keeping the PS fluid cool is the name of the game. With the large FJ boxes you have plenty of power, you just have to keep them cool.

Next up the brake system and the steering shaft/fire wall cover.

Cam is on.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 08:39 AM
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issues with 3.4 PS banjo, he getting upgraded to my extra 2.7 banjo.

This one once again the only part I relied on web info or otyher vendors parts for and once again it is dead wrong.

It's a good thing I have multiples of everything custom. Back at it with 2.7 parts.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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Ok, so to make the few people happy that were extremely obsessed with my front shackle angle, we had Alcan make a custom pack.

The truck has a front shackle angle of positive 10 degrees. I have Negative 5 degrees.

It should ride like a Caddy, but personally, It's not for me. The shackles stick too far out for the wheeling I do.

I'll take the Neg 5 and the extra 3/4" of lift. 5 degrees is not worth screwing with, in another year or so I bet they will have settle to Zero, which is where I want mine.

I think this Pos 10 will be better for this customer as his ride will be compared to a Lexus car.

I’ll get this mother running today, off to the Auto Part store for Motor Oil, ATF, Brake Fluid and Gear Oil.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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Sweet!

I know this isint supposed to be a tech thread, but, why are the shackles in the front in the first place? Aren't most setups with them in the rear?

Does the axle just move forward under compression instead of back?
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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that's the whole idea. moves towards the front of the fenders where you can trim instead of back towards the firewall where you can't.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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Putting the shackles in the rear (shackle reversal) for a sprung-under swap of this type would also force the axle back into the oil pan under compression.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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The beast runs! No Check Engine Lights. Only the PS pump pushing all the air out.

With a lift this low, only 3.25" the only option is to go forward with the axle. With a really big lift you can go back. It's alot less expensive to do a hugh/high lift SAS, the low ones are more expensive.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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3.25" of lift SAS! That is freekin low. Awesome work. Is he goin' with the ARB bumper again?

With it that low the rear could stay LC coils. I realize it may not be as balanced, but the height would be right.

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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Albuquerque Jim
3.25" of lift SAS! That is freekin low. Awesome work. Is he goin' with the ARB bumper again?
Yep. RD116 Dana 44. 10" of travel on each wheel. It's the same as my truck but the front will ride 3/4" lower. The IFS diff with the RD90 and 4.88's went for $900 which was the fair market price. CV axles are long gone. Or should I say Wong Gone. Only thing of value left is the steering rack. Anyone need a rack? 120,000 street miles.

Same articulation, same everything. More Caddy ride on the road.

Basically what this swap does is makes a "Factory" Straight Axle 3rd Gen. Not a Monster Truck but something that even the Toyota Engineers that visited Colorado were impressed with the pics and info Cheese shared with them.


Low = $$$
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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I would have to agree that your design is probably the best engineered in general. After lifting my truck so high, and realizing that the high center of gravity is just bull˟˟˟˟˟ (well, with ifs), I would love the idea of a spring under solid axle!

I really enjoy looking at these pictures and seeing the amazing amount of M4D sk1llz you have.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Albuquerque Jim
3.25" of lift SAS! That is freekin low. Awesome work. Is he goin' with the ARB bumper again?

With it that low the rear could stay LC coils. I realize it may not be as balanced, but the height would be right.
i thought he already swapped to rear leaves
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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i thought he already swapped to rear leaves
HE does...I was just stating that ONE could. However, I know there would be an issue with front to rear balance like an IFS truck.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Albuquerque Jim
3.25" of lift SAS! That is freekin low. Awesome work. Is he goin' with the ARB bumper again?

With it that low the rear could stay LC coils. I realize it may not be as balanced, but the height would be right.
Yeah ARB bumper. No on coils, you'll still have an IFS truck. Rear does everything and front start to work when the rear is done.

It needs to work 50/50 You would need an extremely stiff lift rear coil. But if your going to all this trouble to swap the front, loose that factory soft ride stuff and the sprung under leafs have 10" travel shocks, more travel at the wheel wells, most of it up. Your screwing yourself if you don't put leafs in the rear, remeber I tried keeping the coils and not only was is spooky on the Freeway, it did not wheel right.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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Wow.. Love the low ride with Solid Axle. Seems like all the SAS taco's and 3rd gen 4runners I have seen are huge!
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 11:25 AM
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They are alot bigger. This is just like alot of your guys trucks now, but so much stronger with the Dana 44, Superior Axles and CTM's.

Also alot more articulation and the weight on 2 front tires not only one.


Dam that stupid Earls' fitting, I'm gonna re-design that too. Putting an english threaded fitting in a metric box is gay.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by sschaefer3
They are alot bigger. This is just like alot of your guys trucks now, but so much stronger with the Dana 44, Superior Axles and CTM's.

Also alot more articulation and the weight on 2 front tires not only one.


Dam that stupid Earls' fitting, I'm gonna re-design that too. Putting an english threaded fitting in a metric box is gay.
Why don't you just redesign the whole truck Steve, by the time your done you pretty much have.

I vote for Steve to design the next generation 4Runner FOR Toyota, get it right from the factory.
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