Swimmerboy2112's 1991 Pickup Build Thread
#125
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Time to look for some headers!
What do you think swimmerboy since your looking for a header is this a good deal?
Here is an add for a header on CL in Mooreland In, not to far from me at around a hour and a half drive, but not wanting to spend $275 he wants for the header...Is that a good price after you read it?
I would go snag it if it was $175
http://richmondin.craigslist.org/pts/2575224111.html
Time to look for some headers!
What do you think swimmerboy since your looking for a header is this a good deal?
Here is an add for a header on CL in Mooreland In, not to far from me at around a hour and a half drive, but not wanting to spend $275 he wants for the header...Is that a good price after you read it?
I would go snag it if it was $175
http://richmondin.craigslist.org/pts/2575224111.html
Last edited by john4wd; Sep 14, 2011 at 10:05 PM.
#126
Here is an add for a header on CL in Mooreland In, not to far from me at around a hour and a half drive, but not wanting to spend $275 he wants for the header...Is that a good price after you read it?
http://richmondin.craigslist.org/pts/2575224111.html
http://richmondin.craigslist.org/pts/2575224111.html
#127
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Quote:
Time to look for some headers!
What do you think swimmerboy since your looking for a header is this a good deal?
Here is an add for a header on CL in Mooreland In, not to far from me at around a hour and a half drive, but not wanting to spend $275 he wants for the header...Is that a good price after you read it?
I would go snag it if it was $175
http://richmondin.craigslist.org/pts/2575224111.html
Time to look for some headers!
What do you think swimmerboy since your looking for a header is this a good deal?
Here is an add for a header on CL in Mooreland In, not to far from me at around a hour and a half drive, but not wanting to spend $275 he wants for the header...Is that a good price after you read it?
I would go snag it if it was $175
http://richmondin.craigslist.org/pts/2575224111.html
#138
I know I'm speaking from a completely biased slant.... But I LOVE my LCE header... The sound, flow, etc. I gained(as you will with most headers, lol) on hills, top end, etc.....
IF I were to have to pick another, it would be the DT's.... just be reputation and, well, Ted of engnbldr telling me, "I LOVE the tri-y's with the 22re... Less Header click, etc., ... but yes, the LCE one is REALLY nice, especially the super thick flange." And then again, ..... Jim of Putney's told me, "My favorite header for my built stage 2 motors is the LCE 4-1 that you have. You're golden, just relax", lol.
I would stick with a name brand that has good return service if you've got problems with it, ya know? (problems like OUT OF THE BOX problems, of course, lol).
IF I were to have to pick another, it would be the DT's.... just be reputation and, well, Ted of engnbldr telling me, "I LOVE the tri-y's with the 22re... Less Header click, etc., ... but yes, the LCE one is REALLY nice, especially the super thick flange." And then again, ..... Jim of Putney's told me, "My favorite header for my built stage 2 motors is the LCE 4-1 that you have. You're golden, just relax", lol.
I would stick with a name brand that has good return service if you've got problems with it, ya know? (problems like OUT OF THE BOX problems, of course, lol).
Last edited by ChefYota4x4; Sep 18, 2011 at 02:46 PM.
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I know I'm speaking from a completely biased slant.... But I LOVE my LCE header... The sound, flow, etc. I gained(as you will with most headers, lol) on hills, top end, etc.....
IF I were to have to pick another, it would be the DT's.... just be reputation and, well, Ted of engnbldr telling me, "I LOVE the tri-y's with the 22re... Less Header click, etc., ... but yes, the LCE one is REALLY nice, especially the super thick flange." And then again, ..... Jim of Putney's told me, "My favorite header for my built stage 2 motors is the LCE 4-1 that you have. You're golden, just relax", lol.
I would stick with a name brand that has good return service if you've got problems with it, ya know? (problems like OUT OF THE BOX problems, of course, lol).
IF I were to have to pick another, it would be the DT's.... just be reputation and, well, Ted of engnbldr telling me, "I LOVE the tri-y's with the 22re... Less Header click, etc., ... but yes, the LCE one is REALLY nice, especially the super thick flange." And then again, ..... Jim of Putney's told me, "My favorite header for my built stage 2 motors is the LCE 4-1 that you have. You're golden, just relax", lol.
I would stick with a name brand that has good return service if you've got problems with it, ya know? (problems like OUT OF THE BOX problems, of course, lol).
Now, I trust your opinion and Ted from engnbldr's opinion so I think I may go with the DT. Actually its funny, I just helped a buddy install a DT header in his 2001 Nissan Frontier. It was a quality made header, really made me have faith in the DT design.
Now what do you mean by "header click"? I've never heard that before.
And yeah i plan on going with a name brand not some crappy ebay header.
#140
"Header Click" is when, in a 4 into 1 header and even some times in the Tri-Y, the exhaust gas get's caught by build up of the other 3 and backs up to the head and ''CLAPS'' against the exiting exhaust, making a "CLICK" sound, like a valve tick or something. Ted tried to help me diagnose this, ...and as a matter of fact, my sig quote was his final comment on the matter! hahaha. (HE DID go over it with me, extensively, cuz Tod listened to the video and told his dad, "WOW, it's pretty unique and ominous", then explained it to him...{only dial up on Ted-Island! lol}...
There is another cause, apparently, for some NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE to find ticking regarding "headers on 22re's". It seems that MANY header designs, while they completely cover the exhaust ports, very well, .... leave out the extra flange(?) that the Stock Manifold has around the "EGR PASSAGE" that actually wraps around the back of the head to the driver side, PASSING THROUGH the rear upper/or/lower(can't recall) exhaust stud channel.(Basically, imagine the bottom right stud hole for the exhaust as having a T at the end of it which actually is an EGR passage) This can have one chasing his/her tail for DAYSSSSSSS! lol. Tod and Ted both have run into this more than once.
Again, not much to do about the latter, either! lol. So, like Ted said, ..."Turn up the Bob Segar and just DRIVE .... then when something breaks, I fix it", lol.
The reason I went with LCE is because, well, SO FREAKIN MANY people have used/been using them forEVERRRRRR, without any issues, warping(within reason) and because the results they get are great. I can vouch for DT's on a 351 Cleveland Motor..... And I've had Downey Headers on 2 Toyota's(both were great!)
You could also call 22reperformance.com and ask him, "This is my set up, ....what header should I run?" See what he says. HE MIGHT say you'd be just as well with a DT, even though I know he loves the LCE. Not saying Tod and Ted aren't enough of a call on many things... But can't hurt to have MORE, rather than LESS... 'SERIOUSLY PROFESSIONAL' input, right? lol
PS> I don't wanna speak for Ted, ... and I KNOW he doesn't mind some headers... But far as I know, he is TOTALLY SOLD, #1, on the Toyota Stock Exhaust Manifold! He built MANY race engines... and I think he found some of his best results out of the stock exhaust manifold with a 2" pipe to the CAT, 2" to the Muffler and then 2.25" out the back. (ask him, see if that's what he feels. I don't want to misquote him, ya know? lol)
There is another cause, apparently, for some NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE to find ticking regarding "headers on 22re's". It seems that MANY header designs, while they completely cover the exhaust ports, very well, .... leave out the extra flange(?) that the Stock Manifold has around the "EGR PASSAGE" that actually wraps around the back of the head to the driver side, PASSING THROUGH the rear upper/or/lower(can't recall) exhaust stud channel.(Basically, imagine the bottom right stud hole for the exhaust as having a T at the end of it which actually is an EGR passage) This can have one chasing his/her tail for DAYSSSSSSS! lol. Tod and Ted both have run into this more than once.
Again, not much to do about the latter, either! lol. So, like Ted said, ..."Turn up the Bob Segar and just DRIVE .... then when something breaks, I fix it", lol.
The reason I went with LCE is because, well, SO FREAKIN MANY people have used/been using them forEVERRRRRR, without any issues, warping(within reason) and because the results they get are great. I can vouch for DT's on a 351 Cleveland Motor..... And I've had Downey Headers on 2 Toyota's(both were great!)
You could also call 22reperformance.com and ask him, "This is my set up, ....what header should I run?" See what he says. HE MIGHT say you'd be just as well with a DT, even though I know he loves the LCE. Not saying Tod and Ted aren't enough of a call on many things... But can't hurt to have MORE, rather than LESS... 'SERIOUSLY PROFESSIONAL' input, right? lol
PS> I don't wanna speak for Ted, ... and I KNOW he doesn't mind some headers... But far as I know, he is TOTALLY SOLD, #1, on the Toyota Stock Exhaust Manifold! He built MANY race engines... and I think he found some of his best results out of the stock exhaust manifold with a 2" pipe to the CAT, 2" to the Muffler and then 2.25" out the back. (ask him, see if that's what he feels. I don't want to misquote him, ya know? lol)
Last edited by ChefYota4x4; Sep 18, 2011 at 08:12 PM.






you can bring the new truck
all righ. have a good time then