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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by xxxtreme22r
no bump stops? looks good though, the one photo looks really good the other looks still like a little saggy butt. .
No, the original bump stops aren't compatible with the u-bolt flip kit. Yeah the saggy butt is more noticeable now.

Originally Posted by Lumpy
No not saggy butt...baby flex!!!
Well she has a bit of a saggy butt now, i'll just have to get a set of longer shackles.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 10:27 AM
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Snag a set of helper springs from Advanced auto for now. It'll stiffen up the ride a bit but and it will increase the load as well as help with the sag. They have el-chepo shackles there also.

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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Lumpy
Snag a set of helper springs from Advanced auto for now. It'll stiffen up the ride a bit but and it will increase the load as well as help with the sag. They have el-chepo shackles there also.

You'd rather do the helpers instead of the shackles?
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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Well you can do both. The helpers will stiffen the springs and bring it up a little. The Shackles will give you a bit of lift. You have to remember it sags because the springs are shot so the helpers will help the spring.

Doing both will get you till you get new springs...
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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although a vast improvement it will still look tiny when you stand next to it. i like it man nice work.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Lumpy
Well you can do both. The helpers will stiffen the springs and bring it up a little. The Shackles will give you a bit of lift. You have to remember it sags because the springs are shot so the helpers will help the spring.

Doing both will get you till you get new springs...
Ah alright, gotchya! How can i help bring the front up? I only have about 2-3 inches of travel until i hit stuff such as the bumper ends, valance, etc. Should i just crank the T-bars?
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mightymouse
although a vast improvement it will still look tiny when you stand next to it. i like it man nice work.
haha i am still taller than the 4Runner. I'll have to get a pic of me standing next to it now.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 10:39 AM
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Lumpy, have you put these on? Do you have a link to pictures? There's a huge thread about them on the Tacoma territiry forum. They cost about $30. They seem to install them backwards. Do you put them on while truck is on the ground or on jackstands?
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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I'm not a fan of cranking the t-bars. BJ spacers when you get the chance. I still have yet to install mine. The runner looks a bit silly with lc coils in and not spacers...
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Lumpy
I'm not a fan of cranking the t-bars. BJ spacers when you get the chance. I still have yet to install mine. The runner looks a bit silly with lc coils in and not spacers...
Umm, the front is lifted with BJ spacers...
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Nervo19
Lumpy, have you put these on? Do you have a link to pictures? There's a huge thread about them on the Tacoma territiry forum. They cost about $30. They seem to install them backwards. Do you put them on while truck is on the ground or on jackstands?
I picked my up at Advanced Auto for about $30.00

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web...%7CGRP2070____

When I installed my I did it with the truck on the ground and the helpers on the rear side of the springs. They really made a difference in the truck. I haul a bunch with it and they do work well. Stiffen the ride so be ready for that.


http://www.amazon.com/Make-Waves-Spr.../dp/B0002JMMUK

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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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Hey Brian, congratulations, man! I know you must be ecstatic! Woot, woot! lol.

I know some don't agree, but for now, once you get a stop back on back there, you could get some Zuks for 70$..........? lol. Far as the Front, yeah, it looks like most guys when jumping to 33's wind up with a 3" lift or something... I'm not really read up on that, but I think it involves these brackets up there, etc. Might wanna strengthen your Idler Arm while you're mod'n away up there, too.

I'ma be re'doing much of my IFS soon, Brian, and I'm working on TRYING to get a lil more travel, without risking TOO much, lol. It's a catch 22 with IFS, from everything I"ve learned in the last few days. One thing for sure, you are limited to a point by the IFS bump stops. You have 2 lower, that limit uptravel, 1 bigger one, upper, that limits droop. Maybe you could throw in some lower profile lowers and have shims handy, like I MIGHT be attempting, in order to get a lil more STUFF. I might shave 1/4" off the upper, too, for a lil more droop, but I have to get it on the rack to test for binding of the CV's, before I button it all back up. I also have those Mega Travel BJ's, and I'm working on getting an answer from Jim, the owner of Downey, as to the best way to get the most out of them, w/least risk possible. Obviously, the more flex you go for, the more risk of tweaking the CV's and possibly other things. CV's, primarily. CV's are not too pricey, but I don't wanna have to be in there after every trip, replacing them. I plan on USING this thing, dangit! lol.... .BUT... I do NOT want to turn it into a huge experiment. DO LOTS OF RESEARCH, brudda... you'll find the best method, and GREAT JOB! Looks good!
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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haha chef i hate cvs!!! my truck eats em up like its going out of style!!! lol brian your runner is looking nasty man. them tires look amazing your truck has sure came a long way!!! lol
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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Chef- thanks man yeah I'm pretty excited! As far as stuffing these I think a 3" or 4" lift is recommended. Sounds like you have some things to figure out lol

Backgate- thanks man as you've seen, I've put a lot of work into her!
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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Other than increased power with the Supra AFM, I've also noticed that my truck starts up with a lot more ease. That makes me happy
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 01:25 PM
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ya it for sure is a whole new truck. as far as lifts though i would get a shackle in the back. mine is sagging to but im just putting a block on top of my aal for now
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BackGateYota92
ya it for sure is a whole new truck. as far as lifts though i would get a shackle in the back. mine is sagging to but im just putting a block on top of my aal for now
Yeah it really is! And I'm gonna throw a set of shackles in the back. Where's the best place to get em?
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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you probably don't like the guy right now because of the confusion with the u-bolt flip kit, but:

http://www.wabfab.org/Shackles/Shack...ypage.tpl.html

I believe yours would be rear narrow. But not sure on what length you would need to get.

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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 02:14 PM
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brian before you cut u bolts you may just want to get a set of old springs and add a couple of leafs from the old springs one maybe 2 one should do it it will bring the back up nice . looking good !!!! do not waste money on helper springs just go to yard and get some I used a set of old chevy springs in rear got about 5 inches (has made the front a nightmare#@*** 2nd gen steering box, making steering arms longer ect. using old rears in front )
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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Xxx- ha I don't have any hard feelings to him. Lol and I was probably gonna get the shackles from him anyway but wanted to see what others thought.

Mfw- that's a good idea. What springs should I go with? The bottom one in the pack or the upper ones?
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