Its really hard to say. The 4" springs I run are longer, but I did move the front crossmember forward 3/4" forward of flush, so it should be close. I figure the box need to go forward an inch, or at least rotate it to clear with plenty of room. That may be an undertaking for the week after Xmas since its usually really slow that week.

BTW, Either you or Aaron up for heading out for King of the Hammers this year?

I am planning on heading out and driving my rig out. Not much wheeling, but do plan to watch, spectate and potentially volunteer with Dave and Jeff.

 

Man, I wish! Looks like a blast. I saw last years KOH's video it was I'm saving the vacation days to take the family somewhere over spring break. I haven't had a vacation in 2 years (minus the month I was out of work after donating a kidney 6 weeks ago ) Thanks for the offer though!

Maybe in a couple of years I'll finally get out to the Hammers. J emailed me asking about the Chili Challenge in Feb. Looks like a good time also!

 

When is your spring break????

This may be right up your alley:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=736392

 

Believe me, I'd be in Moab in a heartbeat for Spring Break. Wife wants something with a beach and no 4-wheeling

That sounds like a great Moab trip. I've stayed at the Canyonlands RV park. It's nice, showers are clean, and is close to everything in town.

 

You can come up here and help me, how much more detailed does that get.

I'll do my best, I have yet to see a good step by step install. Inchworm does have some step by step directions, but it would still be nice to have more pictures. I would really like to use my dual cases (which are both stock gears) but after some research it looks like the adapter makes the drivetrain length around 5" longer than a man. trans set up. If that is true, I might only be able to fit one 4.7 case (I want to keep the rear heater).

I have seen that auto shifter before (I think from another one of your threads) and it is an option, especially with AWShifting changing is product. Do you know many details about it? I'm wondering if it has shift gates ( 1-2-3-4) or if it's just an up / down set up ( + <> -). I also wonder how hard it would be to add the LED lights that show what gear you are in, along with some sort of torqe converter lock up?

Joe's set up will be awesome, and you know he's going to throw it in double low,... just because he can!

I would really like to run both of my cases, I just don't know if there will be room. If it's close I could look into some sort of tripple shifter and lower it a little to clearance everything. I really need to contact Inchworm before I can figure out any of the details.

I loved my old manual transmission that was in the old 4Runner. If you couldn't make a line, throw it in double low, drop it in third gear and hammer down! I used to launch my truck through certain obsticles, but that's also why it looked the way it did. I really don't plan on doing anything like that in the Turbo 4Runner (except snow ), so the auto should work out really well (once I figure out all the little details).

Here is a VERY good example of what I'm talking about!

 

The kit I have is from Trail-Gear, along with the cooler.

Once you get hydro assist you will NEVER go back! With a front locker I used to get jammed up in spots that no matter how hard I tried, I could not turn. Then you loose your line, and everything goes downhill

With hydro assist I have always been able to turn and on the street it get's rid of any bumpsteer, deathwobble or little shimmy. In the one week I ran without it I really noticed a differance (and I don't even have a front driveshaft yet).

 

That's a good point, there are so many variables when you complete a SAS. If you don't run hydro assist you shouldn't need to do any trimming to the front core support, possibly just a little around the box itself. Rotating the box add's a lot of extra room, but won't help much on your drag link angle and bumpsteer.

I would love to check out the King of Hammers, but it's not going to happen this year. Too much work and not enough money

I might be down for that Moab trip though! May can be pretty busy at work with spring break, but if it's late May I might be able to pull it off. I love Moab and have wanted to head back there for a while now. Both of our rigs should handle the drive out there and the trails about the same, neither of us want to bash the crap out of or trucks either. Let me know when you guy's come up with a date and I'll see if I can make it work.

 

I'm pretty sure we are going to do Moab from May 1st-9th. Not sure I will spend the whole week, but I am going to try. My plan is to head home on the Kokopelli trail and spend a night or two on that trail. Its 145 miles from Moab to Grand Junction via dirt roads. Figure I can hit the Top of the World, and a few other off-chutes too.

As far as KOH goes. I'm planning on leaving early Wednesday morning on the 25th and heading home early Sunday morning. I figure with gas prices where they are, I'll be out around $100 in gas each way. And another $100 for food and beer. Not bad for 2000 miles, the greatest rock race in the world, and a chance to see the Hammers one last time. For $300, its well worth it to me.

 

It's a sequential style, as far as I can tell. He says that you just have to add a switch for torque converter lockup. The way I see it, I will only use this on the trails, and I don't need lockup on the trails. On the street, I can just use drive. Solves my problem. I'm sure there is a way to wire in LEDs but I don't find that important, RPM and speed help me decipher my gear.



Triple Shifter sounds like it could work for keeping your rear heat. I think you will regret a single 4.7 case. From what it sounds like you are building this for, you won't be able to drive longer distances comfortably. With my stock 2.66:1 transfer case ratio, the engine revs really high, even with OD on.

Just some thoughts.

 

I thought Brett at AW Shifting went out of business???? I heard he stopped making them.

Someone else is doing it though.

Edit: He did. Direct from his website:
AWshifting is changing.
The Problem:
A full time job, a part time job, school, starting a family plus AWshifting has created a serious time crunch in my life. The major time
investments involved in this project have been communication and assembly of units, which has suffered greatly with extreme
busyness. There simply has been no time to assemble a handful of controllers and answer hundreds of emails every week. The
result has been poor customer service, and admittedly this is no way to run a business, so things are changing drastically.

The Solution:
By January 2009 AWshifting will be open source under a Creative Commons license. No more orders are being accepted, and the next few weeks
will be spent catching up on backorders. What does open source mean? That means all the information to create your own AWshifting controller
will be posted right here on this site. That's right, all of it. From parts lists to programs, you can make your own. Since small purchases of parts
and paying shipping from multiple suppliers quickly drives the cost up over $150, I will sell an un-assembled kit for under $100 allowing you to do
the assembly yourself with common tools. By eliminating communication and assembly needs, I will be able to ship kits within 48 hours of purchase.
Thank you for your patience and please check back.

 

That would be why my website is not Brett's...

This guy made one for his rig and has good customer service. I talked to him for awhile (I am going to order one eventually) and he gave me directions on how to make a crude version on my own. I was having shifting issues with my transmission, and he gave me directions on testing it to see if his product (or my own made to work like his) would fix it. Good guy.

 

I'm jelous about both of your trips

Are the Hammers closing this year?? I've heard reports of possible closure but nothing set in stone. That would suck to have them closed

 

i started following your build, very interesting and full of ideas. i started mainly because i just bought a 4runner just like that, well how it use to be. stock. the bumper is my favorite part. really cool, and i would like to know if you have any skecthes and size of tube for that rear bumper. i want 2 of those. or do you have a build??? well thanks, i'll post a pic of my rides and i will keep posted with this post.

 

I feel stupid . I was thinking March, not May. May is pretty slow (to a certain extent) and I could probably pull it off, if I can afford it. I'd also be down for checking out that Kokopelli trail, if you don't mind me tagging along.

 

Not sure yet. But, I'm not taking any chances. I want to see it one last time just in case it does close down. If we lose the Hammers, its a HUGE loss for our community. The Hammers is really what started the "hard Core" trend in building rigs with 35"+ tires and stupid low gearing.

 

The push buttons seem a lot easier to locate and shift, I was thinking about having a small raised section right under the center console lid ; one up shift button and one down shift button. It would be a nice, relaxed way to shift through the gears.

I plan to use the system off-road as well, but I would use it a lot around town as well(that's why it would be nice to have the LED's). Where I live there are hills everywhere and the auto just can't make up it's mind.

I really want to keep my dual cases, if I can. I heard on pirate that the overall length will be increased around 5" compaired to a man. set up. If that is true I don't think I'll have the room, without some major surgery. If I can keep the cases I will, but I don't want to cut the truck up to make them work.

I realize that AWShifting is going out of business, I was just hoping that he sticks by what he is saying and makes a kit that you can build yourself (with really good instuctions ). It seems like he has a good product, but not the time to follow it through.

The other shifter seems pretty cool, but I don't know where I would mount it. I looked at his other shifter (like the AWShifting unit), but I saw a few things that made me think again. I'm not triying to bash his product, but if you are going to spend over $300 I expect a little more.

Here's what I'm talking about:

Red - 4way flat wiring, and plug

Green - unprotected cheap terminals

Blue - I really hope that the cardboard is not the casing for the unit

Purple - I'm not sure what this is, but it does not look like normal wiring. I would not say anything about it, but the following things lead me to question it's quality.

 

I know nothing about that kit... I think somewhere he had paddle shifters wired in, that would be convenient.

 

I was just looking back at your pics. You might want to run a small piece of 1.5x1.5 or 2x2 sqaure behind the spring hanger and under the frame as a frame brace if you get a chance. Seems like the frame crack at that junction.

Here's a pic of mine as reference. Hard to see it behind the PS box but you can see the other side decent.

 

Good eye! I was planning on installing some more bracing to the spring hanger, I just want to get everything set up so I know what clearance I have.

 

I forgot who I was talking to The king of the 4Runner details