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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 01:28 PM
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Im really debating about getting my heads mildly ported n polished while I am fixing the valve seal and checking valve lash over Christmas. A buddy who works at a machine shop said he would do it for me for cheap... tempting. My other thought is to get a wideband o2 sensor so I can monitor or "tune" my engine a little smarter, instead of just guessing on what sounds right. My issue is, do they make a wideband o2 that has the 2 bolts for mounting in the stock Toyota way or would I have to get a screw in bung welded in? Anybody got a clue?


yea take a vid when you have that set up hooked up!!!

Yes on the heads!!! I have heard from people that gains of 25hp from ported heads!
Do the TB and intake manafold while your at it!!!

O2 info.
http://www.widebando2sensor.com/pages/Wideband-o2-FAQ

http://www.widebando2sensor.com/page...easurement-FAQ

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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 04:34 PM
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Thanks for the info on the Wideband. it is very helpful. I will be reading it several times. And yes I will probably do the TB and partially do the intake. Now when I say a mild port n polish, I mean a smoothing of the rough edges and more of a gasket match situation.
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 04:48 PM
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So when catalog says "Standalone gauge kit" that means it does not require a separate controller of any kind correct? the article talks about running widebands on carbs and efi with minor mods but doesn't really say how, or do a good job or listing specifications by vehicle type ( boosted, efi carb, etc. ) just looking for some insight
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 05:09 PM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Innovate-MTX-L-Digital-Wideband-WBO2-Air-Fuel-Ratio-AFR-Gauge-Kit-3844/331080772634?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D261%26meid%3D3195944692769682531%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D1088%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D270924567245%26
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Innovate-LC1-Wideband-DB-52mm-Kit-O2-BLUE-LC-1-3795-/270904657477?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item3f132d0645
ok im lost, besides the gauge, whats the difference between these two??
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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Ported n polished heads is sweet. I dunno how much your buddys charging you but im assuming you will be without your vehicle for awhile. Also will you be taking it apart/reinstalling or you??? As far as the wideband it basically tells you the air fuel mixture which is suppost to be 14.7 if i remember. KelvinB did this on a DSM laser and it was turbocharged and modded and ran awesome when you were ripping on it but at idle it surged and ran like crap. In my opinion id keep the stock toyota o2 but thats just my opinion
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 05:24 PM
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The guy owes me a bunch of money so he is going to work it off. I have 2 weeks off during Christmas so that's the time limit.

As far as the wideband. All I really want to do is MONITOR my Air Fuel Ratio, I don't need to program or be able to hook up a PC to it for fuel mapping etc etc. I just want to see what my truck is doing and various rpms. Since Im going with headers, pnp heads, 7mge afm, ISR, I figure its best I know what is happening inside the motor, so that I can better adjust it. I will adjust and tune myself....
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 05:49 PM
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Wideband o2 sensor systems are most commonly used in tuning modified engines as they provide the precise air/fuel ratio information needed by the tuner to enable them to properly tune the engine. From enthusiasts with minor bolt-ons looking to verify or tweak their tune and needing the information to do it, to 8-second drag cars, few tuners attempt to tune their engines without the aid of a wideband these days. It's like a window into your engines fueling needs.



So what I got from that is you need to look in that window.

So install a seperate bung in the pipe, wire it to one of the ebay kits so you can read the gauge.

http://www.widebando2sensor.com/Mild...ession-fitting


Put that in, and keep the factory stuff.
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 05:57 PM
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what will that do for me??
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 06:07 PM
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Really it just gives you your air/fuel ratio, thats pretty much it.

So when you change timing or the air mix on the TB, you can check the gauge to see if its what you want.
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 06:09 PM
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a weld in egt bung will do that? how??
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 06:15 PM
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ok I think I misread your previous post. I still need an o2 kit. just which one? As you said, I only want to look in the window..... basic. I will do the rest....
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 06:17 PM
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The bung is just for the sensor, then you put in the

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...38629981034310



As far as which one the one in the link above looks good.

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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 06:25 PM
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Alright, I appreciate the information.
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 06:30 PM
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what are the differences between the 2 sensors I posted above?
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 07:02 PM
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after some more research I think this will be my Christmas present to my truck:

new gaskets from engnbldr:
http://www.engnbldr.com/toyota-3.0-v-6.html

injectors:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Toyota-4Runner-Pickup-89-95-3VZE-3-0L-V6-4-hole-upgrade-fuel-injectors-w-video-/261228448791?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cd26dcc17&vxp=mtr
along with one of the o2 sensors posted above and my headers should make for a pretty bad a$$ 3vze. As I figure it the parts should be about 400 plus some shipping. Im hoping for some Yotatech discounts to reduce that price. I was hoping to not spend that much, I might wait on the injectors, We shall see. I will still have to piece together an exhaust after that too. plus there is always surprise costs when you pull apart a motor
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 02:57 PM
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I just ordered parts for my Truck. I got the valve grind set of gaskets, a Timing belt, and a head bolt set from Engnbldr. Everyone is right, He is a super nice and helpful guy. I also ordered the flamethrower upgraded injectors. Should be here next week. Im getting excited!!!
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 03:31 PM
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Wow lucky you haha bet you can't wait for that truck to come with those parts. How much of a power boost do the flamethrower injectors offer?

87 4runner 22re 5speed *traded*
93 xtra-cab 22re 5speed
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 03:39 PM
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8% higher flow rate and better spray pattern.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 03:42 PM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Toyota-4Runner-Pickup-89-95-3VZE-3-0L-V6-4-hole-upgrade-fuel-injectors-w-video-/261228448791?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cd26dcc17&vxp=mtr

read and see for yourself
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 07:36 AM
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Nice!!! Hope its coming along for you and hope it opens her up too. Probalbly gonna breathe way better!!
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