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Old May 27, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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Mud Bog Tire Choice Dilemma

I need some opinions. There's a mud bog Saturday I'm going to. I usually run my 34x9.50 TSLs on 15x7 wheels. They are extrememly light, tall, and narrow. They are very easy to turn over. I also have a set of tires I run on the road and in the local mud. These are 35x12.50 Baja Claw Radials on 15x10 wheels. The claws and the tsls really are only about an inch difference in height.

While I do like the tsls, they don't hook up quite as much as the claws. They do better in mud bogs because I have more power to turn them, they cut into the mud better, and they dont drag much. The claws, on the other hand, hook up really well, they just weigh a lot more, don't cut through really thick mud as well, and I can't turn them over quite as fast.

So Saturday, instead of running my TSLs as usual, I'm throwing around the idea of running two TSLs in the front and two claws in the back. This way the lighter tires would be easy on my cvs, cut through the mud well, and then (in theory) my claws in the rear would do the hooking up and forward pushing and would finish off the narrow rut the front tires leave behind. What do you guys think? TSLs front, claws rear, or TSLs all around?
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Old May 27, 2009 | 08:24 PM
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so are you mud drag racing or mud bogging?

for mud drag racing id go with the 34's all the way around. like you said they cut threw the mud better and also free up a lil power.

for a mud bog id go with the wider tire to help stay on top!

the best drag tire i have used for the 4cyl's are the 35x10.50 boggers. good off the line traction, tall and skinny to cut threw the mud. i have won a stack of trophies with those tires!
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Old May 27, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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Boggers all the way. Definitely more so since you have road tires.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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see I would think it's the other way around...

wider tire to keep you on top, for the faster mud racing, and a skinnier tire so that it'll sink down and grab hard bottom when bogging. but I guess the skinny tire for bogging is only going to work really good if either the bog isn't all that deep, or the tire is like those tractor tires




but at the same time, you do see plenty of guys run the wider tires as well...







oh, and off subject, but in the same "album: of those pictures, this is probably one of the most awesome pictures I've ever taken here


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Old May 27, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SwampThing
Boggers all the way. Definitely more so since you have road tires.
we have a saying for boggers around here...

you either go, or you break

I ran boggers once (even though they were half bald they were free though, so no complaints)... I didn't get stuck... but I did have smoke pour from my trans after ROASTING the clutch, lmao



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Old May 27, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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that would be true bleeder if, a 22re had the power to stay on top.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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that would be true bleeder if, a 22re had the power to stay on top.
you make a good point sir

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Old May 27, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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tsl's deeper tread and they clean better
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Old May 28, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TOYOTA 1
so are you mud drag racing or mud bogging?

for mud drag racing id go with the 34's all the way around. like you said they cut threw the mud better and also free up a lil power.

for a mud bog id go with the wider tire to help stay on top!

the best drag tire i have used for the 4cyl's are the 35x10.50 boggers. good off the line traction, tall and skinny to cut threw the mud. i have won a stack of trophies with those tires!
It's called a mud bog, but we don't know if it's a speed pit or a digging pit til we get there. It's different every time. I would have gotten 35x10.50 Boggers probably if I had gotten my swampers new. But I got my TSLs used pretty cheap. I'm wondering if the claws on the back and tsls on the front will give me the best of both worlds. I won the 4 and 6 Cylinder class at this place last time with the 34s. I want to try claws on the back eventually though.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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Moved to the Tires & Wheels section.

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Old May 28, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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run the Baja claws backwards
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Old May 28, 2009 | 01:39 PM
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Groove the TSLs to get a little more life and bite out of them puppies

Cheap and effective
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Old May 28, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by shaw_j
Groove the TSLs to get a little more life and bite out of them puppies

Cheap and effective
Groove them meaning sipe them? Making small shallow cuts across the tread? Think that would help in mud?
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Old May 28, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fillsrunner4
run the Baja claws backwards
Haha. Not in this thick mud. They clean up pretty well in the correct direction. But I haven't had them in the mud they have at this place. I know boggers look like slicks after a run at this place.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Skinsfan6
Groove them meaning sipe them? Making small shallow cuts across the tread? Think that would help in mud?
No no no, way bigger cuts than siping.

Here is an example of a re-grooved racing tire


Or a grooved swamper:


You don't necesarily need to re shape the tread like has been done to this swamper, but just go around the outline of the tread, to liven it up a bit
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Old May 28, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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no grooving them means to take out some lugs, and take out acsess rubber to lighten it.

they sell blanks so that you can groove you own pattern. try the claws on the back see how it goes! i think they would just slow you down though.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TOYOTA 1
no grooving them means to take out some lugs
You don't NEED to take out any lugs at all, but you will remove excess rubber
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Old May 28, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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I'd run the TSL's. Where's the mud bog at?
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Old May 28, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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Oh well I don't wanna cut up my tsls in case I might want to sell them one day.

After, bolting the front two tsls on and driving it down my lane, I decided to just run the tsls all the way around. There's a big difference in the power even with only two claws still on. They're heavy somvabeaches. That's what I ran last time and it worked well (I won the 4 and 6 cyl class). So I figured I won't fix what's not broken. The mud bog is at Southern Virginia Motorsports Park in Jarratt, VA. The website is www.southernvirginiamotorsportspark.com . It's not a very big place but they put on an alright mud bog and it's organized well. And they are one of only two or three places around here that has a 4 and 6 cylinder class.

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Old May 28, 2009 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by shaw_j
You don't NEED to take out any lugs at all, but you will remove excess rubber
well most people that groove there tires take off lugs. but your right it is optional.
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