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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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Porter Cable Backing Pads

I've been reading trying to figure out why the backing pad that comes with the PC 7336SP won't work with Griot's polishing pads. I know that its a hook and loop something or other, but I can't find a picture that actually illustrates the differences.

In the mean time, Griots sells backing pads for $26.95. I found a link in another PC thread to Coastal Tool, and they sell PC backing pads for alot cheaper -

6", 6-hole standard = $15.75

6", 6-hole contour = $17.50
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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Yep, the Porter Cable one does not have Velcro on it to hold the pads.
It's made for sand paper only.
I use the Meguair's one listed on my Detail site.

The Griot's one is more money, but has "cool" holes in it to disipate heat.
A gimmick perhaps, and the Meguiar's one will save you some $$$.

Those pads you listed also look like they are for sandpaper only.
I'd just get the Meguiar's one, and you will be ready to rock & roll.
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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Tom,

I just did my truck yesterday and I have the Griot's backing plate for the PC. It fits their polish/wax/clay pads perfectly and as Corey said the holes disipate heat buildup.

I think it's worth a few extra bucks.
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 01:22 PM
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Hmm, ok thanks for the feedback guys. I'd rather spend a little more the first time than get something cheaper and end up having the wrong thing.
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 01:24 PM
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Woody, when you got yours, did you happen to get the 7336SP, the one that comes with a polishing pad? That's the one I got at Lowe's. I'm just wondering how well it would work.
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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The backing pad that Coastal tools sells DOES have holes in it to dissipate the heat and is PC brand, it just sold as an accessory. It DOES have the velcro backing which work with any hook and loop system; griots, megs, Lake Counrty (who makes pads for Autogeek, proerautocare, and others).
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TDiddy
Woody, when you got yours, did you happen to get the 7336SP, the one that comes with a polishing pad? That's the one I got at Lowe's. I'm just wondering how well it would work.
Yes, that's the exact model I got from Lowes. I never used the pad that came with the PC, only the Griot's orange polish pad and red wax applicator.

I did the complete job yesterday. Wash with Dawn, clayed with Griot's clay and Speedshine, machine Polish #3, and then Best of Show wax. I still have to wipe off the wax. I let it sit all night and I'm getting ready to get started buffing it out.

When you use the PC, use it on level 5-6 for polish and 3-4 for the Best of Show wax. You'll be amazed.

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Interesting. Thanks Stu, your post is where I found that link to Coastal in the first place. So I take it you have this backing plate from them?
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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Woody, you can let the wax sit overnight? Wow. Did you use the stock pad then or did you also get a pad from Griots?
Old Mar 5, 2004 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TDiddy
Woody, you can let the wax sit overnight? Wow. Did you use the stock pad then or did you also get a pad from Griots?
Tom,

I use the Griot's pads only. Orange polish pad and red wax applicator.

One of the tips I got from Griot's was to apply a coat of BOS, wait three or four hours, apply another coat and then let it set overnight. That's what I did and I'll let you know in awhile how hard it was to get off.

Just remember that you only put about a dime sized drop on the applicator pad if you use the BOS wax and apply it on a section until you need another dime sized drop. It doesn't take alot and if you put down to much it is a real bitch to get off.
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tom,

forget that dude, save your money: all i did was to go to Home Despot and buy some other company's brand of adhesiver hook fastener. i think it might have been ryobi. anyways, it was CHEAP (under $6), had the holes, etc. however, it was not 6" but 5". if i have an extra one (which i think i do), ill mail it to you. in return, send me a stalk of frozen, non-GMO corn. (bad joke, i know)

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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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The plot thickens...

I'll have to check that out Bob. I may be making a Depot/Lowes run tonight or tomorrow.

It may be a few months till I can get my hands on a stalk though...
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Oh, way to go Bob. :pat: Now he's confused. j/k.

Anyways Tom, I just got through buffing out the wax and it wasn't really any more difficult to get off after about 18 hours than if I did it right away. It really is a deeper shine than buffing out right away.

Plus, that is ALOT of work to do it all in one day.
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Talking Lowe's model

Originally Posted by TDiddy
Woody, when you got yours, did you happen to get the 7336SP, the one that comes with a polishing pad? That's the one I got at Lowe's. I'm just wondering how well it would work.
Tom,

That is the model I bought at Lowe's and the pad that comes with it won't work. If you are going to go Griot's, go all the way dude!

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Woody, good advice on the dime sized drop.
The first few times I Griotized I put way to much BOS on.
Very hard to wipe off if you get to much on.
Looking forward to your duel wax layer treatment.
I don't have that luxury since my waxing salon is outside.
By the way, that's the clay bar holder in the pic.
Much thicker than their pads seen here.

Tom, go for the Griot's pads, they are simply the best.
I have tried a few, and the Griot's are low profile, and work very good.

Griot's is more $$$ for a reason, it simply works right the first time.
Old Mar 6, 2004 | 12:15 AM
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It's supposed to be bright and sunny tomorrow so I'll put a few pics up if I can.

This new board software does'nt like my previous links. :pat:

Tom- A PC is a PC. Wax and polish pads are not equal.
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I did the full Griot's treatment, Dawn wash, Clay, Polish, then Best of Show wax, two weeks ago and it was well worth the work. On the wax, i put down a coat, did some other stuff around th house for about 3 hours then came back and put another coat on top of the first. We had a party to go to, so I wasn't going to have time to remove it so I left it on over night. The next morning I put on a third coat directly on top of the first two, then removed it. You would think that it wouldn't make that big of a difference, but that is wrong. The black almost had a wet look to it. I was very pleased. Here is a shot after all the work.
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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 05:19 AM
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Here's another shot......
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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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Is this the backing plate that you were referring to that griots sells? That is the same as the PC brand BP without holes. The purpose the holes serve when working with such a low temp as the PC will produce is neglegable. Why pay $10 more for no holes?

Bob, you got the right idea. One thing is though, the 6" pads are actually closer to 6.5" and when using a variable contact pad to work product you might not be getting the same pressure distributed to the outter edges of the pad as on the parts that are backed. The Griots and PC are most likely darn close to the full 6.5", pretty sure.

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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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Stu, that is the link I also have on my detail site, but for some reason Griot's is not using the correct picture.

The pic in their catalogs is way different than that one.
I have a ton of catalogs laying around, but to lazy to scan one in.

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