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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 09:09 PM
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3" lift

if i can use a 3" block in the rear of a 2wd truck for a lift or lowering, can't i just use them to raise the whole damn truck (if i have a straight axle toyo, which i do?)
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 09:21 PM
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Re: 3" lift

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if i can use a 3" block in the rear of a 2wd truck for a lift or lowering, can't i just use them to raise the whole damn truck (if i have a straight axle toyo, which i do?)
blocks should never be used to lift the front. i can't tell you exactly why but i do know for sure it is strictly a no-no. i think it has to do with axle wrap.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 09:22 PM
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Blocks can't be used in front, it's not safe. Do it right and keep the roads safe, we don't need any poorly lifted rigs falling apart on the road and killing some innocent family in turn giving us bad PR.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 09:22 PM
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they why are the pucks a go? doesnt make sense..
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See this thread too.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...ghlight=blocks

Just say no too blocks.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 09:23 PM
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crikey, did i say i was going to?...i was just curiuos as to whether or not i could.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 09:24 PM
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Re: Re: 3" lift

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i think it has to do with axle wrap.
The blocks will collapse under stress while turning resulting in loss of steering. They can also fail during emergency braking.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by guitarsncars
crikey, did i say i was going to?...i was just curiuos as to whether or not i could.
We don't mean to jump on you, it's just that we've seen some really scary backwoods type stuff and it's just not right. Your best bet if it has to be cheap would be to use longer shackles front and rear (1.5-2" longer) and a 2" body lift, otherwise do it right and get springs designed for the lift you want.
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makes sense..but do the aluminum block collapse as well? a long time ago, i had a truck that i initially used 3" blocks for lowering that were aluminum, and never had a problem. I have seen nylon blocks, and wouldnt touch them if they were given to me, much less pay for them.
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i too have seen block lifts..thats why i was wondering. as for the shackles and body lifts, if i remember..they arent very cheap at all.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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Lowering is a little different, they are what's known as "spring under" and the block is not supporting the weight of the vehicle, rather the u-bolts are. Still they shouldn't be used on the front no matter what. The material won't make much of a difference, the problem is the mostly concerning the length of the u-bolts and the leverage that's placed on them by the extended length.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 09:34 PM
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hrm. interesting. as for springs, there are de-arched packs, as well as over-axles for lowered trucks...any variations on the standard pack for a 4x? besides shackeling and add-a-leaf? and just how many leafs CAN you add before its a liability?
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by guitarsncars
i too have seen block lifts..thats why i was wondering. as for the shackles and body lifts, if i remember..they arent very cheap at all.
Shackles $100 for both front and rear or about $10 in steel if you have the skills and tools to make then yourself.

Body lift ~$100 best place to get one is from Roger Brown, only guy who will custom build you a kit to your needs.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by guitarsncars
over-axles
same thing as spring under

Adding leaves just stiffens the pack, it won't lift you much. Dropping leaves does the opposite, you won't lose quite as much lift as you would think but you will make the suspension very soft leading to poor road manners. Increasing the arch is what gives you the lift, and with the right combination of leaves of the right spring rate and arch you'll end up with a decent ride quality and plenty of flex all while staying safe.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 09:43 PM
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i guess its a good thing i dont have a good memory, eh? oh, and i guess what suspension work is all about, the amount of flex, correct? thats why they have those portable ramps that one drives a tire up as far as possible and they see how flexible the rig is..right? i guess im just looking for the most bang for my buck (which aint much) but nothing insane.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by guitarsncars
thats why they have those portable ramps that one drives a tire up as far as possible and they see how flexible the rig is..right?
Ramps are for posers Real world performance is what matters.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 09:52 PM
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well, like i said before, ive come straight from the pages of Mini Truckin', not Four Wheeler. The whole concept of working on my truck is now much more complex due to 4x, so its taking some getting to used to. Not to mention, I did a manufacturer-switch too. I just did some browsing, and it seems like shackles I shall go....for now
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Also see this new forum at the bottom, and look for the lifting post in it.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/foru...?s=&forumid=19

With a Roger Brown 1" body lift, and a rear shackle or add a leaf, he shows you how to fit 33's on an IFS rig without spending the big bucks for one of those expensive IFS lifts.
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 09:48 AM
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...i got a straight-axle.
Old Feb 3, 2003 | 09:06 PM
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How about these blocks? lol





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