Corral Canyon OHV Area Rehab:SoCal
#21
I just rec'd a e-mail from Richard Tull on this.
Hello,
You are receiving this message because you indicated that you would like to be part of the volunteer efforts to help reopen the Corral Canyon OHV area which was damaged by the Horse fire this summer. The dates of December 9th and 16th are both Saturdays so we will be most likely to fit these days into peoples schedules. I don't have the details of the work itself at this time but we will be evaluating the needed work and decide what parts volunteers can help with between now and then. For now just set aside one or both dates and I will provide more information as details become available. Feel free to forward this message or pass on the info to anyone else you think might be interested.
I will be on vacation in Baja for the next couple of weeks ( the Baja 1000 is this week) so I won't be responding to messages until I get back.
Thanks for getting involved
Richard Tull
OHV Program Manager
Descanso Ranger District
Cleveland National Forest
3348 Alpine Blvd.
Alpine, CA 91901
(619) 445 6235 ext 3451
I replied that I would post this here and on TTORA.
Any takers for this?
Hello,
You are receiving this message because you indicated that you would like to be part of the volunteer efforts to help reopen the Corral Canyon OHV area which was damaged by the Horse fire this summer. The dates of December 9th and 16th are both Saturdays so we will be most likely to fit these days into peoples schedules. I don't have the details of the work itself at this time but we will be evaluating the needed work and decide what parts volunteers can help with between now and then. For now just set aside one or both dates and I will provide more information as details become available. Feel free to forward this message or pass on the info to anyone else you think might be interested.
I will be on vacation in Baja for the next couple of weeks ( the Baja 1000 is this week) so I won't be responding to messages until I get back.
Thanks for getting involved
Richard Tull
OHV Program Manager
Descanso Ranger District
Cleveland National Forest
3348 Alpine Blvd.
Alpine, CA 91901
(619) 445 6235 ext 3451
I replied that I would post this here and on TTORA.
Any takers for this?
#22
Yeah I'm down for either date. I got the weekend of Dec. 2 set aside for camping in Collins Valley with my boy but outside of that I can definately put in a Sat. of manual labor for the cause. Thanks for the update EC.
How has this windswell been down there? The reefs have been good whe the size was bigger.
How has this windswell been down there? The reefs have been good whe the size was bigger.
#24
Guys
you have all the contact info that I have so either day is open for you to contact Mr Tull and do your thing.
I am in for the 16th of Dec. I have work Christmas party stuff the weekend of the 9th so that is out for me.
Anyone else want to go with me on the 16th? Very worth while use of your time and a good way to get out there and have a good time giving back!
you have all the contact info that I have so either day is open for you to contact Mr Tull and do your thing.
I am in for the 16th of Dec. I have work Christmas party stuff the weekend of the 9th so that is out for me.
Anyone else want to go with me on the 16th? Very worth while use of your time and a good way to get out there and have a good time giving back!
#27
Not a problem Andy. I was wanting to see those sliders you made anyway.
I would be glad to drive up after meeting somewhere central. That offer is good for 2 other individuals from SD area. Its a 4Runner with lots of room!
I am excited to go do some good but will admitt that I am also looking forward to just being able to see what the fire did to the area up close and personal.
I would be glad to drive up after meeting somewhere central. That offer is good for 2 other individuals from SD area. Its a 4Runner with lots of room!
I am excited to go do some good but will admitt that I am also looking forward to just being able to see what the fire did to the area up close and personal.
#28
Just rec'd more info on this Trail Repair project:
OHV Volunteer days information
Hello,
Our volunteer work days scheduled for December 9th and 16th at Corral Canyon OHV area are to proceed as planned. To make these work days as effective (and fun) as possible I have put together a list of projects and information for everyone to look over so you can be prepared and have an idea what work each of you wants to participate in.
INFORMATION
Food and Water:
The Cleveland National Forest will provide drinking water. Volunteers should plan on bringing their own food (brown bag etc).
Sunscreen, Bug repellent
Make sure to bring both of these. It is winter but it is better to have them and not need them right?
Work Clothes, sturdy boots, Eye protection and Gloves Safety is our BIGGEST priority. Be prepared to work safely.
INITIAL RE-OPENING PROJECTS
You can decide for yourself what activity(s) you want to participate in. So far we have identified the following:
Marking and fencing the temporary boundary along the burn side of trails 3 and 3A As part of the phased re-opening of Corral Canyon the southwestern edges of trails 3 and 3A will be used as a temporary boundary to keep off-roaders on the open side of the burned area. The burn area is undergoing extensive erosion control and rehab work so the recreating public will need to be kept out of the closed portion of the OHV area to allow work to proceed.
This allows the public to utilize the areas unaffected by the fire related operations and allows crews and equipment to move freely inside the rehab area. Volunteers wishing to help on this project need to have gloves, boots and eye protection at a minimum and are encouraged to bring pliers and any fencing related hand tools they want to use. Moving and staging fence materials along the installation route will also be an activity to help with. The temporary boundary line will be marked and flagged and installation of posts and fence wire will proceed at whatever rate we can manage.
Preparing the Kiosk at Four Corners Staging area for sign panel replacement The weathered sign panels at Four Corners are due for replacement and the old ones will need to be removed. This is an easy but important project.
Cleanup at Bobcat and Corral Canyon Campgrounds Both campgrounds have been sitting idle and need some cleaning up. This is another easy but very important project.
Setting up fencing at the beginning of the Spur Meadow trail to maintain the fifty inch wide maximum vehicle width.
During the fire suppression effort the Spur Meadow trail was bulldozed for use as a contingency line. Until the tread can be fully restored both ends of the trail will receive temporary fence installations that will ensure that the trail can remain a cycle trail by maintaining the fifty inch width restriction.
Evaluating “Adopt a trail” routes for improvements to be done by Trails Unlimited The Espinoza trail was also bulldozed during the Horse fire suppression effort and it is scheduled to have tread replaced by Trails Unlimited this winter. A portion of the trail will remain closed during the initial Corral Canyon re-opening phase because it is within the burn rehab area and will require extensive work. The portion outside that area will be re-opened but will also need significant work to restore it to the recreation resource it is supposed to be. Club members can bring GPS receivers and digital cameras to record locations of trail features they would like to see incorporated into the restoration work. They can create a description of the desired feature as well as a diagram that corresponds to the GPS data and photos. This information will be passed on to Trails Unlimited and providing there are no unforeseen design or erosion control problems we will do our best to incorporate them into the route.Help us create the experience you want.
Removing the “Dead Bronco”
On the 9th we will want to check the current status of the abandoned Ford Bronco that was going to be removed last season but was not due to fire danger. If the vehicle is found to be movable an effort will be made on the following Saturday (12/16/06) to get it out of there.
Checking for damaged and/or missing signs Fire damaged, missing and weathered signs are all scheduled for replacement. Bring a GPS and a digital camera and go on a sign hunt to help us create an accurate list of needed signs.
Other Ideas
Anyone who knows of work that they can do that is not listed above should bring what they need to accomplish the work and be able to explain what it is (and why it is important).
Where and When to meet
We will be meeting at the Four Corners staging area at 9:00 am on both the 9th and 16th.
The main gate will be manned and only volunteers will be allowed through since the area is still under a closure order. No recreational riding is going to be available although there may be opportunities for guided tours of the burn area.
I have some RSVP’s already but I would like to hear from everyone who plans to be there this week so that I can do some more detailed logistics planning. (Clubs can just send a single message with a head count in it). I will need volunteer agreements from everyone who does not have a current one with us. If in doubt fill out another one.
I am sending out an electronic version of our standard volunteer agreement. Please get these filled out and returned to me as soon as possible. You can send them back electronically or bring them with you this Saturday.
(See attached file: individual volunteer agreement corral canyon.rtf)
I am looking forward to seeing all of you at Corral Canyon the next two weekends.
Thanks for stepping up and getting involved.
Richard Tull
OHV Program Manager
Descanso Ranger District
Cleveland National Forest
3348 Alpine Blvd.
Alpine, CA 91901
(619) 445 6235 ext 3451
As you can see this is a big deal and lots of people are getting involved. Also want to point out that this Land Manager has our (Off Roader's) best interest in mind. It is not all that often that a land manager asks for input on how a trail should be built and what obstacles would be best for us. Pretty Rare!:bigclap:
OHV Volunteer days information
Hello,
Our volunteer work days scheduled for December 9th and 16th at Corral Canyon OHV area are to proceed as planned. To make these work days as effective (and fun) as possible I have put together a list of projects and information for everyone to look over so you can be prepared and have an idea what work each of you wants to participate in.
INFORMATION
Food and Water:
The Cleveland National Forest will provide drinking water. Volunteers should plan on bringing their own food (brown bag etc).
Sunscreen, Bug repellent
Make sure to bring both of these. It is winter but it is better to have them and not need them right?
Work Clothes, sturdy boots, Eye protection and Gloves Safety is our BIGGEST priority. Be prepared to work safely.
INITIAL RE-OPENING PROJECTS
You can decide for yourself what activity(s) you want to participate in. So far we have identified the following:
Marking and fencing the temporary boundary along the burn side of trails 3 and 3A As part of the phased re-opening of Corral Canyon the southwestern edges of trails 3 and 3A will be used as a temporary boundary to keep off-roaders on the open side of the burned area. The burn area is undergoing extensive erosion control and rehab work so the recreating public will need to be kept out of the closed portion of the OHV area to allow work to proceed.
This allows the public to utilize the areas unaffected by the fire related operations and allows crews and equipment to move freely inside the rehab area. Volunteers wishing to help on this project need to have gloves, boots and eye protection at a minimum and are encouraged to bring pliers and any fencing related hand tools they want to use. Moving and staging fence materials along the installation route will also be an activity to help with. The temporary boundary line will be marked and flagged and installation of posts and fence wire will proceed at whatever rate we can manage.
Preparing the Kiosk at Four Corners Staging area for sign panel replacement The weathered sign panels at Four Corners are due for replacement and the old ones will need to be removed. This is an easy but important project.
Cleanup at Bobcat and Corral Canyon Campgrounds Both campgrounds have been sitting idle and need some cleaning up. This is another easy but very important project.
Setting up fencing at the beginning of the Spur Meadow trail to maintain the fifty inch wide maximum vehicle width.
During the fire suppression effort the Spur Meadow trail was bulldozed for use as a contingency line. Until the tread can be fully restored both ends of the trail will receive temporary fence installations that will ensure that the trail can remain a cycle trail by maintaining the fifty inch width restriction.
Evaluating “Adopt a trail” routes for improvements to be done by Trails Unlimited The Espinoza trail was also bulldozed during the Horse fire suppression effort and it is scheduled to have tread replaced by Trails Unlimited this winter. A portion of the trail will remain closed during the initial Corral Canyon re-opening phase because it is within the burn rehab area and will require extensive work. The portion outside that area will be re-opened but will also need significant work to restore it to the recreation resource it is supposed to be. Club members can bring GPS receivers and digital cameras to record locations of trail features they would like to see incorporated into the restoration work. They can create a description of the desired feature as well as a diagram that corresponds to the GPS data and photos. This information will be passed on to Trails Unlimited and providing there are no unforeseen design or erosion control problems we will do our best to incorporate them into the route.Help us create the experience you want.
Removing the “Dead Bronco”
On the 9th we will want to check the current status of the abandoned Ford Bronco that was going to be removed last season but was not due to fire danger. If the vehicle is found to be movable an effort will be made on the following Saturday (12/16/06) to get it out of there.
Checking for damaged and/or missing signs Fire damaged, missing and weathered signs are all scheduled for replacement. Bring a GPS and a digital camera and go on a sign hunt to help us create an accurate list of needed signs.
Other Ideas
Anyone who knows of work that they can do that is not listed above should bring what they need to accomplish the work and be able to explain what it is (and why it is important).
Where and When to meet
We will be meeting at the Four Corners staging area at 9:00 am on both the 9th and 16th.
The main gate will be manned and only volunteers will be allowed through since the area is still under a closure order. No recreational riding is going to be available although there may be opportunities for guided tours of the burn area.
I have some RSVP’s already but I would like to hear from everyone who plans to be there this week so that I can do some more detailed logistics planning. (Clubs can just send a single message with a head count in it). I will need volunteer agreements from everyone who does not have a current one with us. If in doubt fill out another one.
I am sending out an electronic version of our standard volunteer agreement. Please get these filled out and returned to me as soon as possible. You can send them back electronically or bring them with you this Saturday.
(See attached file: individual volunteer agreement corral canyon.rtf)
I am looking forward to seeing all of you at Corral Canyon the next two weekends.
Thanks for stepping up and getting involved.
Richard Tull
OHV Program Manager
Descanso Ranger District
Cleveland National Forest
3348 Alpine Blvd.
Alpine, CA 91901
(619) 445 6235 ext 3451
As you can see this is a big deal and lots of people are getting involved. Also want to point out that this Land Manager has our (Off Roader's) best interest in mind. It is not all that often that a land manager asks for input on how a trail should be built and what obstacles would be best for us. Pretty Rare!:bigclap:
#29
Update from the 1st work weekend at Corral Canyon..thanks Just Runs
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...s/message/5150
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...s/message/5150
#31
Hey all
I thought I would pass along some info for San Diego/SoCal wheels. Corral Canyon was badley damaged last year by wild fires and was closed for about 8 months. Some of the trails are opened up again but more needs to be done to get it back in shape.
Richard Tull is the point of contact for this trail repair project. He is really an advocate for 4x4 land use. This is an email I got from him a few days ago:
Hello,
I know this is short notice and that most of you will have plans already
but I wanted to let you know that I will be working on the Phase 2 fence
project on June 2, National Trails Day at Corral Canyon. All of the
material needed to open the next section of trails at Corral Canyon have
arrived so Phase 2 is under way. The reopening work is the only thing on
the schedule for that day so if anyone wants to join in be at the
entrance to Bobcat Meadow campground at 10:00 am and wear your work
clothes. This is not an "official" volunteer work day (we weren't sure
when the materials would be delivered so scheduling has been a problem)
but anyone who wants to help out will be very welcome.
Even though this isn't one of them, I am planning to schedule regular,
recurring volunteer days because this project is my number one priority
and there is a lot to do (at least we have all the materials now). Look
for that announcement soon.
Contact me if you have any questions.
*Thumpertalk guys- How about posting this info on the forum?
Happy Memorial Day!
Richard Tull
OHV Program Manager
Descanso Ranger District
Cleveland National Forest
3348 Alpine Blvd.
Alpine, CA 91901
(619) 445 6235 ext 3451
"Reality is an illusion, albeit a very persistent one"
Albert Einstein
PS -Watch for an upcoming announcement on the formation of "The Friends
of Corral Canyon"
I may not be able to make this one myself but thought I would forward it to those here who may use this trail.
Thanks!
I thought I would pass along some info for San Diego/SoCal wheels. Corral Canyon was badley damaged last year by wild fires and was closed for about 8 months. Some of the trails are opened up again but more needs to be done to get it back in shape.
Richard Tull is the point of contact for this trail repair project. He is really an advocate for 4x4 land use. This is an email I got from him a few days ago:
Hello,
I know this is short notice and that most of you will have plans already
but I wanted to let you know that I will be working on the Phase 2 fence
project on June 2, National Trails Day at Corral Canyon. All of the
material needed to open the next section of trails at Corral Canyon have
arrived so Phase 2 is under way. The reopening work is the only thing on
the schedule for that day so if anyone wants to join in be at the
entrance to Bobcat Meadow campground at 10:00 am and wear your work
clothes. This is not an "official" volunteer work day (we weren't sure
when the materials would be delivered so scheduling has been a problem)
but anyone who wants to help out will be very welcome.
Even though this isn't one of them, I am planning to schedule regular,
recurring volunteer days because this project is my number one priority
and there is a lot to do (at least we have all the materials now). Look
for that announcement soon.
Contact me if you have any questions.
*Thumpertalk guys- How about posting this info on the forum?
Happy Memorial Day!
Richard Tull
OHV Program Manager
Descanso Ranger District
Cleveland National Forest
3348 Alpine Blvd.
Alpine, CA 91901
(619) 445 6235 ext 3451
"Reality is an illusion, albeit a very persistent one"
Albert Einstein
PS -Watch for an upcoming announcement on the formation of "The Friends
of Corral Canyon"
I may not be able to make this one myself but thought I would forward it to those here who may use this trail.
Thanks!
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