Up and Coming Redesigns
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Some of those things, I don't see why they are redesigning. Like the Highlander. Does Toyota really need like 6 SUV's? They have the Rav4, the highlander, landcruiser, FJ cruiser, 4Runner, sequoia, Am I forgetting any?...Who want's an SUV that isn't that big, doesn't look that great, you can't take off road, doesn't seat that many people, and doesn't get real good MPG?
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Honda is dropping all of its hybrids for diesels in 2009, with the last hybrid models will be 2008. Hybrids are just too expensive and over complicated. There is really no savings when you have to spend thousands to replace batteries every 5-7 years. Hondas new diesels will achieve 92 MPG in a 4 door sedan; something a compact hybrid hasn?t even come close to achieving yet.
http://www.carpages.co.uk/honda/hond...s_12_05_04.asp
http://www.carpages.co.uk/honda/hond...s_12_05_04.asp
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That might be the only way i would ever have a hybird.
I saw Supra and i nearrly jumped for joy hoping that they were going to bring back that great car but then i saw it will be a hybird and saw the picture and fell back down to earth HARD. That things is UGLY.
I want a mid-90's version!
I saw Supra and i nearrly jumped for joy hoping that they were going to bring back that great car but then i saw it will be a hybird and saw the picture and fell back down to earth HARD. That things is UGLY.
I want a mid-90's version!
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Yup, diesels are the way to go. The hybrid stuff just doesn't cut it. It is interesting, but the cars are TOO SLOW, and cost too much, and diesel can offer better economy, and lower cost, and prolonged reliability.We need to focus on diesel, hybrids, IMO came out about 15 years too early. We still need to research those a little more, and make them look like cars that people would actually want to drive.
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Yeah potential, a giant battery and added electronics. We can get all the Fuel economy and power out of Diesels and not have to put up with computer controled cars... They're more expensive to build, maintain and buy, where as Diesel's have been around for a hundred years and still make the most power with the simplest powerplant. Since when has adding weight and complexity led to potential... No to mention it takes more energy and bad chemicals to make the batterys than it does to make Bio fuels. Bio fuels will be the savior of our energy crisis. Bio-haul has potential. and bio-haul plus hybrid tech... maybe I'll take a look.
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Mmmm, where in the world did you pull that mis-information from:
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071009/japan..._car.html?.v=2
Y'all best get out of the caves and look around some

Diesel_Freak wrote:
Yeah potential, a giant battery and added electronics. We can get all the Fuel economy and power out of Diesels and not have to put up with computer controled cars..
You don't think diesels have computers and advance electronics......
You want to talk about power.
Ok, what's used to haul the heaviest loads on land and what engine do they use for them (the vast majority of 'em).
Fred
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The publics lack of knowledge and overall poor attitude is what killed the electric car in the first place. See: Who killed the electric car Link to Trailer: http://www.sonyclassics.com/whokilledtheelectriccar/
The problem is again rearing its ugly head, but instead of Electrics, we have hybrids. And the publics ignorance and general poor attitude to hybrids is again killing them off.
Diesel Freak and Stormin94: I want to know where you get your "information"
Diesel has its place, just like hybrids and electric cars even. However, in this time of "high horsepower faster is better" no one is willing to sacrifice power for effeciency. A Prius will get you there the same rate of speed your gas-sucker 4Runner will, and for 3 times the efficiency. Am I saying drive a prius instead of a 4Runner? No. I own 3 4runners, i am no hypocrite. But saying Hybrids are bad technology is about the silliest thing I have ever heard.
The problem is again rearing its ugly head, but instead of Electrics, we have hybrids. And the publics ignorance and general poor attitude to hybrids is again killing them off.
Diesel Freak and Stormin94: I want to know where you get your "information"
Diesel has its place, just like hybrids and electric cars even. However, in this time of "high horsepower faster is better" no one is willing to sacrifice power for effeciency. A Prius will get you there the same rate of speed your gas-sucker 4Runner will, and for 3 times the efficiency. Am I saying drive a prius instead of a 4Runner? No. I own 3 4runners, i am no hypocrite. But saying Hybrids are bad technology is about the silliest thing I have ever heard.
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Wouldn't that be trains? And...lets see....diesel ELECTRIC trains!! dun dun dun! Doesn't that make them Hybrids of sorts?
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Not sure. The diesel turns the electric generator which sends that electric power through the cars. They have motors that are driven off the electricity on the axles. Not really a hybrid as the diesel can't turn off as all power to the axles would be lost but it does show that diesel is a better powerplant for some applications. I've been hoping someone would look at a diesel hybrid motor so that there could be awesome pulling power from a stop and then improved economy during normal use. I think the initial expense of diesel engines has kept auto manufacturers from looking at diesel since hybrids already tack on $$$ to the bottom line of a vehicle.
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