Seafoam Injector / Intake Cleaner = GOOD STUFF
#241
Originally Posted by gwhayduke
True.
CORRECT.
Sure, it'll boost your compression...but you don't have the same amount of carbon buildup in each cylinder, hence the compression ratio will be slightly off in each cylinder and therefore your power pulses in each cylinder will not be balanced. Which is why racers cc their heads, balance pistons, rods and cranks.
In addition, carbon holds heat and causes the predetonation that was spoken of previously. If you want to go against common wisdom and build up the carbon in your cylinders, go ahead. You'll find though, that it doesn't just build up in your cylinders, but also around the intake valves, decreasing the flow into the cylinder.
If you think carbon buildup is the holy grail to finding an extra horse or two, go ahead find some long chain carbons and toss 'em in your tank. You might try dissolving them in toluene or acetone first.
Me? Naw....I try to make my engine last as long and run as smooth as possible and keep the $2-4K for a rebuild doing other things. So far, my strategy seems to be working for me.
CORRECT.
Sure, it'll boost your compression...but you don't have the same amount of carbon buildup in each cylinder, hence the compression ratio will be slightly off in each cylinder and therefore your power pulses in each cylinder will not be balanced. Which is why racers cc their heads, balance pistons, rods and cranks.
In addition, carbon holds heat and causes the predetonation that was spoken of previously. If you want to go against common wisdom and build up the carbon in your cylinders, go ahead. You'll find though, that it doesn't just build up in your cylinders, but also around the intake valves, decreasing the flow into the cylinder.
If you think carbon buildup is the holy grail to finding an extra horse or two, go ahead find some long chain carbons and toss 'em in your tank. You might try dissolving them in toluene or acetone first.
Me? Naw....I try to make my engine last as long and run as smooth as possible and keep the $2-4K for a rebuild doing other things. So far, my strategy seems to be working for me.
I wasnt saying that at all. I've run the Seafoam in both my Runner and my Accord (got great results from the Accord too, btw. I was simply (originally) trying to find a reason why post-seafoam could yield less mpg and less power.
#242
I don't think it does... I think if you have less MPG, then you've just "stirred" things up a bit w/o actually cleaning or dissolving them - OR - you may have an underlying problem that either is brought to the surface or occurs by coincidence...
I did several treatments to the intake and the injectors back to back, then a couple weeks later did it again. I have a lot of miles on the engine, so I'm sure it was nasty stuff in there. I haven't lost any MPG gains since the last treatment.
I did several treatments to the intake and the injectors back to back, then a couple weeks later did it again. I have a lot of miles on the engine, so I'm sure it was nasty stuff in there. I haven't lost any MPG gains since the last treatment.
#243
My engine ran really ruff and was hard to start after the 1st treatment. But after a good trump on highway She ran fine again.. I guess it takes awhile to burn all that crap out.
I did my treatment about 4 weeks ago. 1 can in the oil, 1 can threw PCV Valve, 1 can in gas. (I wouldnt recommend leaving this stuff in your oil for more than 1 week, I drove around for 4 days with it in my crankcase and when I changed my oil it was BLACK and lumpy)
I think I did notice was my Spark Plugs were pretty black after the treatment (Newer plugs to) I little Throtle body cleaner and a tooth brush and there as good as new.
So I think its a good idea for anyone who has done this treatment to CHECK YOUR PLUGS
I did my treatment about 4 weeks ago. 1 can in the oil, 1 can threw PCV Valve, 1 can in gas. (I wouldnt recommend leaving this stuff in your oil for more than 1 week, I drove around for 4 days with it in my crankcase and when I changed my oil it was BLACK and lumpy)
I think I did notice was my Spark Plugs were pretty black after the treatment (Newer plugs to) I little Throtle body cleaner and a tooth brush and there as good as new.
So I think its a good idea for anyone who has done this treatment to CHECK YOUR PLUGS
#244
question....anyone here in the Midwest....where did you pick your Seafoam up at...I'm having trouble locating said product!
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#245
Originally Posted by amorphous
question....anyone here in the Midwest....where did you pick your Seafoam up at...I'm having trouble locating said product!
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Seafoam definitely made a difference in the way my engine runs, much smoother, better response, well worth the $$$ IMO.
#246
any good hardware store should have it. it is used on small engines alot out board motors too.
So if u cant find at the auto parts store try the local hardware store
So if u cant find at the auto parts store try the local hardware store
#247
#248
Originally Posted by 4Hummer
My engine ran really ruff and was hard to start after the 1st treatment. But after a good trump on highway She ran fine again.. I guess it takes awhile to burn all that crap out.
Oh well, I needed to have my tranny looked at anyway
#249
Originally Posted by Pretacopower
Your's too huh? I started to freak out yesterday cause mine was running really rough afterwards, a few times it wouldn't even start. (cranked but didn't fire) I have relatively new spark plugs (12,000 miles). After driving for awhile it seemed better but its still at my mechanic's right now getting looked at. Guess I should've let it sit longer :pat:
Oh well, I needed to have my tranny looked at anyway
Oh well, I needed to have my tranny looked at anyway

I did the treatment a couple days ago to a friends Jeep, We check the Plugs before hand and they were fine. Check them 2 days after the treatment and they were BLACK and oily
#250
I just ran it through mine today, did it 4 times through the PVC hose.. First two times when shutting off the engine it kept running for about 20 seconds after the key was turned off.. Smoked like a mofo when restarting 5 minutes later.. 3rd time it stopped right away after turning off the key. 4th time I stalled the engine while adding it, let that sit for a good 10 minutes since I figured it had to be soaked that time, more smoke..
While doing all this, every neighbor on the block came out and looked, the dogs ran and hid in the back, and a police chopper did a fly by.. I think even the EPA was on it's way.. LOL..
But dang if my idle isn't dead smooth now, and I've lost my little hicup I was getting when my engine passed 3800 rpms.. Seems smoother power too.. We shall see how the next week goes, I dumped a can into the tank too.
While doing all this, every neighbor on the block came out and looked, the dogs ran and hid in the back, and a police chopper did a fly by.. I think even the EPA was on it's way.. LOL..
But dang if my idle isn't dead smooth now, and I've lost my little hicup I was getting when my engine passed 3800 rpms.. Seems smoother power too.. We shall see how the next week goes, I dumped a can into the tank too.
#251
Originally Posted by 4Hummer
CHECK YOUR PLUGS new or not. It seems that Burning all that crap out of the engine after the seafoam treatment fouls the plugs.
I did the treatment a couple days ago to a friends Jeep, We check the Plugs before hand and they were fine. Check them 2 days after the treatment and they were BLACK and oily

I did the treatment a couple days ago to a friends Jeep, We check the Plugs before hand and they were fine. Check them 2 days after the treatment and they were BLACK and oily

O2 sensor too!! Check it if your problems persist.
Mike
#252
I've found that this stuff pours alot better through the brake booster line....I tried doing it through my PCV valve but stalled it as soon as I poured the Seafoam in. I had the tube pinched pretty tight too.
With the brake booster line I hardly have to pinch it at all....which is better cause I felt my thumb cramping up while pinching the PCV
Just a tip
With the brake booster line I hardly have to pinch it at all....which is better cause I felt my thumb cramping up while pinching the PCV
Just a tip
#253
I did two more intake treatments over the weekend and got some more gunk out. after burning off all the smoke and fogging out the neighbors and the wife, I pulled the plugs and all had a touch of carbon, but not bad. I used some seafoam to clean off the carbon buildup on them and put them back in. I then put the rest of the seafoam into a spray bottle and pulled both O2 sensors and gave them a good dousing. After letting them dry a little, I hit them w/ carb cleaner and there was a ton of black gunk that dripped from them. I reinstalled them and I had a horrible miss and a check engine light. I couldn't believe it. I thought this stuff was fine and wouldn't hurt the O2 sensors. I crawled underneath and checked the wires to the O2's to make sure they were still plugged in, then it hit me - I had pulled the spark plugs. A quick galnce confirmed it. I had lef the plug wire off the rear driverside plug. Popped it on and it ran perfect. I let it sit overnight w/ the battery disconnected to clear the CEL and now it's better than ever!
I don't think it's ran any smoother in it's life. I'll let you know how the mileage changes if any...
I don't think it's ran any smoother in it's life. I'll let you know how the mileage changes if any...
Last edited by bamachem; Aug 16, 2004 at 10:26 AM.
#254
Originally Posted by Tankota
I just ran it through mine today, did it 4 times through the PVC hose.. First two times when shutting off the engine it kept running for about 20 seconds after the key was turned off.. Smoked like a mofo when restarting 5 minutes later..
#255
[QUOTE=bamachem]I let it sit overnight w/ the battery disconnected to clear the CEL and now it's better than ever!QUOTE]
fyi - disconnecting the battery won't clear the code, it will just remove the light. the code will be stored until you run a diagnostic program with a scanner. so don't be surprised next time you get smogged when the technician starts talking about CEL this and that . . .
creed
fyi - disconnecting the battery won't clear the code, it will just remove the light. the code will be stored until you run a diagnostic program with a scanner. so don't be surprised next time you get smogged when the technician starts talking about CEL this and that . . .
creed
#256
Originally Posted by cstary
Originally Posted by bamachem
I let it sit overnight w/ the battery disconnected to clear the CEL and now it's better than ever!
fyi - disconnecting the battery won't clear the code, it will just remove the light. the code will be stored until you run a diagnostic program with a scanner. so don't be surprised next time you get smogged when the technician starts talking about CEL this and that . . .
creed
good to know though...
#257
#258
Originally Posted by waskillywabbit
I did the seafoam about 3 weeks ago and I just changed the spark plugs Sunday night as part of my 60K service. This is what they looked like, so you be the judge (new on the left, old on the right).
#259
Edit, i responded and didnt see that the tred was a billion pages. my post was pointless, continue on please/
Last edited by phorunninduke; Aug 17, 2004 at 11:53 AM.



