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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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Okay, I have an 85 (avatar) and just today bought another. The one I bought today is ONLY for parts. It has the 2.2 motor R or RE im unsure of. I live in Iowa and as some of you may know by watching the news we have been boombarded by wet weather and flooding MANY MANY MANY feet above any records ever set. The rig I got today was completlly submerged for about a week in fast flowing nasty river water. The inside and out had a thin layer of mud on it (1/16inch thick). Im talking inside the cab, engin bay, box, out side the rig, everything!

The motor only has 2000 miles on it and I want to get it running.

What are the steps and procedures I need to take in order to get this engin to purr again? ANY help or know how would be great! Anything els I need to look for/at?

I was thinking...
-drain oil
-pull plugs
-take off intake set up
-re-fill oil
-put small amount of oil in cylenders
-clean up intake
-turn over a few times (check for fuel at same time)
-drian oil again
-re-fill oil again
-put new plugs in
-put together intake set-up
-try and start????
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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I'm really not sure if that would do it or not, i wonder if mud in the cylinders (if it got there) would hurt it or if it would just burn it off? I'd imagine the 20r would fire back up again though.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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drain the gas, put like a can of seafoam in with the fresh oil to get rid of the residual water. You may get lucky you may not. It could turn into a huge problem and bigger hassle then its worth.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 10:56 PM
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First off, pull the spark plugs suck the muddy water out. Fill with more water and suck out again...the object being to get the silt/ mud out. I guess its fine if its organic matter, but silt would be bad. You can probably clean the intake this way as well. Then do the oil.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 11:12 PM
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Watch the episode of Top Gear with the toyota truck. River water and a bit of mud is probably not an issue compared to salt water and sand

You'll also want a new battery, guaranteed the old one is dead.

I say give her a chance, most likely you'll have her breathing with minimal effort, just some cleaning.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by NicCantDecide
Watch the episode of Top Gear with the toyota truck. River water and a bit of mud is probably not an issue compared to salt water and sand

You'll also want a new battery, guaranteed the old one is dead.

I say give her a chance, most likely you'll have her breathing with minimal effort, just some cleaning.
X2! Look at my avatar,,,,has been done several times....I think you have the right idea, pull plugs...change oil..etc... just make sure you let everything dry out real well before you hook up the batt and try to start, water and electrical components do not agree. Good luck.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 08:04 AM
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I've sunk my inboard boat a couple of times in fresh water and it's been fine.

The silt probably never made it it in to the combustion area and even if it did it's probably not a big deal.

Keep changing the oil until it's clear.

Battery is probably fine.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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Remove the ECU, open it up, and check to see if its got water and mud in it. If so, clean it out. Also clean out the connectors going into the ECU.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 20twinz
Okay, I have an 85 (avatar) and just today bought another. The one I bought today is ONLY for parts. It has the 2.2 motor R or RE im unsure of. I live in Iowa and as some of you may know by watching the news we have been boombarded by wet weather and flooding MANY MANY MANY feet above any records ever set. The rig I got today was completlly submerged for about a week in fast flowing nasty river water. The inside and out had a thin layer of mud on it (1/16inch thick). Im talking inside the cab, engin bay, box, out side the rig, everything!

The motor only has 2000 miles on it and I want to get it running.

What are the steps and procedures I need to take in order to get this engin to purr again? ANY help or know how would be great! Anything els I need to look for/at?

I was thinking...
-drain oil
-pull plugs
-take off intake set up
-re-fill oil
-put small amount of oil in cylenders
-clean up intake
-turn over a few times (check for fuel at same time)
-drian oil again
-re-fill oil again
-put new plugs in
-put together intake set-up
-try and start????
Son, all you can do right now is put a blanket over it, clean it up, read it a bed time story, and pray.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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Thumbs down

Originally Posted by 1stgen4gunner
Son, all you can do right now is put a blanket over it, clean it up, read it a bed time story, and pray.
Oh come on now, were talking about a toyota here... lol. Im going to put all the suggestions to the test this weekend and see what comes of her.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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If its a 22re the computer might be shot

Not sure if it matters that power is going to it or not...but I wouldn't want water all over my computer.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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Now that you mention it, how can I find out what it does have for a motor? That being a R or RE. It dosent say anywhere on the motor like my other.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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2.2L is a 20R, those motors are extremely difficult to kill pull the plugs, remove the cap and rotor of the distributor, the air intake assembly and filter, and carburetor. Clean the carb, clean the distributor and WD-40 it, remove any vacuum lines and blow compressed air through them to make sure they are free of any dirt and obstructions. Drain gas and put fresh in, Drain oil, flush with ATF, crank it over with no plugs a few times. replace plugs, oil, reinstall everything, check battery, vroom.

EDIT, also spray a lot of clean water through the alternator and starter before running the motor, the water wont hurt them but if there is mud built up in there and you fire up the motor the mud will likely break the brush's.

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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by apalmer1
2.2L is a 20R, those motors are extremely difficult to kill pull the plugs, remove the cap and rotor of the distributor, the air intake assembly and filter, and carburetor. Clean the carb, clean the distributor and WD-40 it, remove any vacuum lines and blow compressed air through them to make sure they are free of any dirt and obstructions.
Its EFI if that makes a diff.?
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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they never made EFI 20R's... are you sure you don't just have a 22RE?

Regardless, if its EFI not carb, do all that i mentioned above but also take off the AFM and clean the air gate inside and the thimble thuroughly, you may also need to pop the cap off of the top and clean out the potentiometer inside and WD-40 it, then reseal it.

Also remove the throttle body and clean the TPS in the same way you did with the AFM. I wouldnt be too worried about the ECT, but you will also definately want to clean the O2 sensor, remove it from the exhaust manifold and gently clean the thimble AND very importantly the top of the sensor where the wires go in, O2S's sense fresh oxygen through the tube that the wires are wrapped in, so make sure the top of the sensor is clean and that the wires are routed correctly and not restricted.

good luck
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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Okay, yea thats what I was wondering... if it was a 2.2RE then. Must be. lol. Thanks.

You mentioned the o2 sensors needing cleand inside and out... What about hard wheeling in the mud, wouldnt that mess up the readings as well and have a rig running like crap while on the trails? Think I could just eliminate them or no with the computer wanting a reading?
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 91Toyota
If its a 22re the computer might be shot

Not sure if it matters that power is going to it or not...but I wouldn't want water all over my computer.
my 3vze ecu has been soaked several times...and it still works fine!! It should be fine as long as no power was going to it while wet...thats what makes it short...you may want to open her up just to get any mud or silt out of it tho.
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 12:21 PM
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Very important....pull the plugs out and turn the engine over to shoot out any water that might be in the cylinders. You bend rods if you dont do this.
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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Okay, today I spent some time on the motor trying to get her to come back to life again.... no luck. So far I have.

-Cleaned out air box and replaced filter,
-Cleaded up TB and most of EFI housing,
-Pulled plugs having water in 2 of the cylenders (about 1/2 qt.),
-Cleaned up cap, rotor, and wires,
-Blew out and cleaned up all electrical connectors,
-Drained oil (1st 2 qts. being water, then the oil after that ),
-Took out o2 sensor and cleaned well,
-Put in new batt,

click, click...... click, click, click.....

That all I got from her,
I had a freind tapping on the starter while I turned the key as well just trying to get it to turn over a few times to get some of the water out of the cylenders, but nothing.

Think its the starter?

If so, I know the starter in my blue 85 works but will it be the same? The blue is a stick and the white yota's an automatic.

Also, anything I forgot to check or clean you can think of?
-Alt. maybe?
-Pull off valve cover and see what that look like?

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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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Dunno if the other starter will work or not...but you could try pulling the starter and cleanin the contacts in the solenoid...everytime mine has been in the water I've had to do this.....might just work!
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