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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 07:11 AM
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I was researching rear disc conversions and saw a bracket set from ruffstuffspecialties.com. I emailed Dan and here's the response. (Dan wrote same day!)

"This uses the 95.5 or newer Taco caliper & rotor, it has no provision for an ebrake, we are looking at a couple of alternative calipers for an ebrake but no luck so far.

> I'm interested in the Toy mini truck rear Taco caliper
> bracket. What disk does it use (Taco front ,FJ or
> Sequoia rear)? What about E-brake?"

Anyone try the all-Toy route? What is everyone using for e_brake?

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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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theres a few ways to get a rear e-brake.

1) the GM route, if you use Tornado(I think...big old caddy), they have a cable e-brake, and 1" GM rotors

2) Supra rear discs. They have a built in drum ebrake in the hub.

3) T-case brake. this is the option I went, for my soon to come disc swap.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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How difficult is it to install the T-Case brake? It seems that is the route most people are going.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 09:30 AM
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T-case break is by far the best option IMO.

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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 09:30 AM
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I've never really thought of using Supra Brakes in the rear... Anybody done this? I assume they are nowhere near a "Bolt In" affair, how much custom stuff youthink you'd have to do to get Supra rear Discs on a Tacoma?
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 07:10 AM
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I found a post on Pirate the discusses using an off the shelf mechanical brake caliper and disc for the T-case setup. Have you ever though of fabbing the bracket?? You know what the other guys are getting for theirs!
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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I've got an All-pro t-case brake, and while I havn't used it yet(truck is still in pieces), it was a pretty easy instal.

The disc bolts onto the back of your t-case output flange. But heads of the bolts are 17mm vs the 14mm stock (they still use the 14mm nuts), so they take a bit of wiggling to get to seat all the way because of the dust cap on the t-case.

The bracket mounts up pretty easy too, just pop out the old t-case bolts, line it up, and throw the new bolts in. There is one PITA bolt that is right behind the caliper, but it just takes a bit more time to tighten down(not much throw).

The hardest part I found was rerouting my brake cable. It was way too long, so I poped it out of its bracket, and did a funky routing job to take up some extra cable, seems to work, but havn't really tested it yet.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 04 Rocko Taco
I've never really thought of using Supra Brakes in the rear... Anybody done this? I assume they are nowhere near a "Bolt In" affair, how much custom stuff youthink you'd have to do to get Supra rear Discs on a Tacoma?
You can use the Supra rear discs with the Front Range Offroad full floater kit. I have those with my FF kit. Hope to get that axle built and under the 4Runner one of these months.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 11:11 AM
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Sky's has some that you can use junk yard parts on


At: http://www.sky-manufacturing.com/

Add large tires to your truck, with a winch and some other extra weight, and it doesn't stop. We have installed disk brake conversions for over 5 years, and in that time, we have used many conversion parts, some worked, most didn't, very few fit well, most required work to get bolt holes to line up, such as certain cast versions of this design bracket. What we did was to take the good, and the bad, and build brackets that work every time. There is only .003 tolerance on these brackets, which required us to start by laser cutting .375 ( 3/8ths) steel, then forming it, then final machine of the holes that bolt to the axle housing and the caliper. Once using this 3 stage process, we came out with the perfect bracket. We also needed it to be one piece, not 2 or 3. Simple makes install easy. These brackets use common Chevy car calipers. Years of the calipers are 79-85 Monte Carlo or Cadilac Eldorado, front or rear depending on if you need the e-brake or not. There is a small knob on some calipers that will interfere with the bracket, grinding is ok. They can be bought new from race shops for about $80 pr, or any auto parts supply should carry them. E-brake style calipers are about $300pr. We supply a modified Chevy rotor if needed, they are $90pr, part # Toy-RDR-001. The braided brake lines needed to connect the Toyota to Chevy caliper are part # Toy-RBL-001. The brake lines are $80 pr and are full length braided lines to the Toyota factory T fitting.



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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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there has to be another caliper that will fit with toyota front solid disks
I'm going to do some research of my own
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by gotboostedvr6
there has to be another caliper that will fit with toyota front solid disks
I'm going to do some research of my own
I HATE to tell you, but between here, ttora and pirate, i dont think any new ideas exist. if you do find something that was missed, post up fo shore
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by gotboostedvr6
there has to be another caliper that will fit with toyota front solid disks
I'm going to do some research of my own
If you've got the solid discs, does that mean you've got SFA calipers too? If so why not jsut use them?

Toyota Caliper Disc Brakets
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 03:03 AM
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I used a set of LC rear discs and supra rear calipers. The LC discs are 6 bolt and have the parking drum inside the disc. A pair of supra rear backing plates with the parking brake shoes and mechanism, a fabbed bracket for the calipers and you are done.
These pics are for a 2WD but I did the same for my 4WD 4Runner. Identical to every detail.
And sorry for the large pics, can't seem to get the any smaller.



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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Mercedes has 2 piston soild calipers they use on the rear of some models with solid disks an emergency brake is incorporated

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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 4runner4ever
I used a set of LC rear discs and supra rear calipers. The LC discs are 6 bolt and have the parking drum inside the disc. A pair of supra rear backing plates with the parking brake shoes and mechanism, a fabbed bracket for the calipers and you are done.
These pics are for a 2WD but I did the same for my 4WD 4Runner. Identical to every detail.
And sorry for the large pics, can't seem to get the any smaller.



I am sorry for bringing up this thread back from the dead but I have a question. What year caliper is this from? For some reason it looks more like a 300zx rear caliper rather than that of a supra. If so, I really like this swap and am interested in looking more into doing this swap. Please let me know. Thanks!
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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I think that was a pic from another axle I made at the same time for a friend.
He supplied the calipers which I think were Nissan or Mitsubishi.
Dunno the type or model.
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 01:03 PM
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Downey offers a disc brake conversion that has an e-brake included. Not sure if they're any good though.
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 4runner4ever
I think that was a pic from another axle I made at the same time for a friend.
He supplied the calipers which I think were Nissan or Mitsubishi.
Dunno the type or model.
I am still interested in the swap, will it be too much to ask you for more info on your swap? Mainly what year LC rotors, if the 300zx backing plate with e-brake component will work(versus supra as you mentioned) and if you ever do you brakes, a template of your caliper bracket. If you don't mind emailing it to me @ hmongima@yahoo.com I'd greatly appreciate it. Sorry I asked so much all at once. Thanks in advanced.
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 06:52 AM
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I HATE to tell you, but between here, ttora and pirate, i dont think any new ideas exist. if you do find something that was missed, post up fo shore

Has anyone thought of trying the newer nissan rear discs? I have a 07 and it has rear discs with a cable e-brake, I think the set up uses a different/separate brake pad that gets pushed against the rotor. I'll take a wheel off and take some pictures and see what people think.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldmans4x4
I am still interested in the swap, will it be too much to ask you for more info on your swap? Mainly what year LC rotors, if the 300zx backing plate with e-brake component will work(versus supra as you mentioned) and if you ever do you brakes, a template of your caliper bracket. If you don't mind emailing it to me @ hmongima@yahoo.com I'd greatly appreciate it. Sorry I asked so much all at once. Thanks in advanced.
I asked my friend which calipers he supplied, he thinks they were from a japanese 3000GT.
The landcruiserrotors I used are from a 90-95 LJ70, part no. 42431 60180 or 42431 60190. I don't think these were sold in the US.

As for the template; I can measure up an old axle I have, but if you use an other brand or type of calipers the template would be useless....

I have no idea if a 300zx backing plate would work. You'll have to measure it up, check drum diameter and depth versus brake shoes etc.
The reason we use supra backing plates is that they are of the same diameter, thickness etc. as from a hilux or landcruiser. They all use identical inners so swapping parts between types and models is easy.
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