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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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The end is near...

Or maybe just a new beginning. My 4Runner is creaping up on that not so magical 200,000 mile mark. I just don't know quite what to do. Should I sell it now and brag that it has less than 200K? Should I keep dumping more $$$ into it? I just don't know what to expect, and I'm lost on this one. What should I do? What should I expect? By the way, I'm at 198,358 miles.
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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If it runs why get rid of it?
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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Are you spending $$$ on upgrades or repairs?
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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Run it until it goes down and then engine swap.

There is a honda in San diego at a dealership in the showroom with 500+K. Pretty neat.
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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it pretty much has 200k anyway, you're not gonna fool anybody trying to buy it...
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sdstud212001
Run it until it goes down and then engine swap.

There is a honda in San diego at a dealership in the showroom with 500+K. Pretty neat.
ive seen that! trippy that a car could last that long and still run with the same motor huh? ill be damned if i can remember the name of the dealership, but still. crazy. and to think if we take care of em our trucks can last that long too
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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I have 218,689 miles on mine and it still runs like a 3.0 stay up on the oil changes and tune ups 200 plus is not that scary and I run 35's
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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I was at that point not too long ago...it's a tough call. I'm buying a '94 civic as a DD and "store" the truck while slowing building it up. It still runs real strong with 324064kms on the ol'22RE all original, shifts smooth and there are little things going...Center Support Bearing...speedo howl...blower swtich fried...rust...super-slow leak in power steering box(I just keep topping it up...Toyota wanted $2100 no word of a lie! The guy at a local shop called twice cause he didn't believe it either.). Guess it really depends on what you want to ultimately do with your truck.

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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ozziesironmanoffroad
ive seen that! trippy that a car could last that long and still run with the same motor huh? ill be damned if i can remember the name of the dealership, but still. crazy. and to think if we take care of em our trucks can last that long too
Mission Valley Honda on Mission Gorge Rd. I think it was an Accord.
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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Don't forget about this guy and his toyota 1 million+ miles
http://www.racetoretirement.org/
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by CJM
If it runs why get rid of it?
Just to get something a little newer, most likely another 4Runner, but probably a 1999+, and something with less miles

Originally Posted by Trumpfan
Are you spending $$$ on upgrades or repairs?
Probably both, but I really don't want to spend much more on upgrades, because if I ever do decide to sell, I will be in WAY over my head. I'm just kinda weighing the possibility of not digging the hole any deeper. I would spend much more on repairs, and maintenence than upgrades, though.

Originally Posted by sdstud212001
Run it until it goes down and then engine swap.
I've considered that, but it is currently my daily driver, and I just couldn't live with out it for that much downtime. And I don't really want to do a swap, because they are very expensive, and I would never get out of it anywhere near as much as I put into it. I'm into it around $4000 already, and I got it given to me as a gift with a blown up motor, and LOTS of other problems. We'll just say the previous 8 owners weren't too kind to it.

There is a honda in San diego at a dealership in the showroom with 500+K. Pretty neat.
That's amazing, and I've concidered keeping mine until it quits, but a non running vehicle is useless to me, as I cannot drive it. I would love to see my 4runner reach 350,000+ miles, but I don't know it she can make it. She's been through A LOT.

Originally Posted by pepsibluefloat
it pretty much has 200k anyway, you're not gonna fool anybody trying to buy it...
I know, but under 200K is a selling point, and sounds better than 206K.

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Don't forget about this guy and his toyota 1 million+ miles
http://www.racetoretirement.org/
I've seen that. Great site!!!
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 02:30 AM
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soon to be million mile civic http://atlanta.craigslist.org/car/408063146.html

and Stormin, 200,000+ miles on a toyota isnt anything rare. selling it now or in the next 30,000 miles isnt going to make a big price difference.

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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 04:37 AM
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I got my 88 with 199,913 on her. Currently Im at around 218,500 miles. I will keep this 4Runner as long as humanly possible.
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 04:41 AM
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These trucks have a market value that is mostly mileage-independent anyhow. If you like it, keep using it!
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert m
soon to be million mile civic http://atlanta.craigslist.org/car/408063146.html

and Stormin, 200,000+ miles on a toyota isnt anything rare. selling it now or in the next 30,000 miles isnt going to make a big price difference.
As for the Honda: WOW!!! IF that's real, then, that's amazing. I suppose stranger things have happened.....

As for the 200,000 miles, I realize that it's nothing rare, I just don't know quite what to think about it. Regaurdless or the brand, 200,000 miles is quite a feat, even for a Toyota. I think I will keep it and join part of the exclusive 200K club.
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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For me I'd rather throw a little $$ at mine a couple times a year than make a monthly car payment. I plan on driving mine until it needs an engine rebuild or a 3.4 swap.
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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I'm worried about how long the engine will keep on keeping on, but I'm also worried about the transmission, rear end, driveshaft, IFS components, T-Case, etc. I just don't want it if these parts are going to wear out, and nickel and dime me. They don't show any signs of going out, but they do all have close to 200K miles on them.
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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Keep it till the engine dies, then swap it for a 3.4 why get rid of it now when its running fine
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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Well, because there isn't anything wrong with it yet, and I don't want to wait untill something goes wrong. And, I'd like to lose the least amount of money possible, so I doubt if I'll end up doing a 3.4 swap.
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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If you are okay with the vehilce that you have (and aren't in need of something completely different, for different uses, like a minivan or commuter car), than it makes no sense to buy a new(er) vehicle. The amount of money that you spend getting a new car will be exponentially larger than anything you spend to keep yours going. The cost of replacing an engine (or even doing a swap) will always be less than buying a newer car.

I read an article somewhere (yahoo or google) that suggested figuring out how much more a newer car would actually cost you:

say per month: $250 for payments, maybe $50 increase is insurance,

for six months, start putting that much money away every month in a savings account that you cant get to, after six months, evaluate if you can afford it, and if it would have been worth it to have a newer car, or $1800 in the bank (that's a flat screen tv and a new Xbox right there)
If you figure that you don't need a new car, then see how long you can go with putting that money away,

after 1 year: $3600
after 2 years: $7200
after five years: $18,000!

Keep in mind that those are just rough estimates, without interest factored, and with only putting away $300 a month (depening on how new and expensive that new car is, that figure could [B]easily[B] double! $600/mo = $36,000 in five years! That's what you will pay if you get a brand new tacoma or 4runner, unless you put $15k down)

If you keep with this plan, then in 2-5 years, if you really really want a newer car, you have a huge down payment or can pay for it all in cash! and then you still have your old rig to beat on!

I understand that this whole things heavily relies on selfcontrol, and everything works better on paper, but the way I look at it is: unless you find yourself spending that much every month keeping you old rig running, then save your money.

Sorry for the long post, I guess I should have just said: "keep it, and don't ever sell it, even if you have to put a new engine in it, and just because you get a new or newer car, doesn't mean that you wont have any upkeep-costs on that either, and those costs will be on top of your payments and higher insurance"

Oh, and If you start saving now, you will be in a much better position if the head gastket goes out or something, I feel bad every time a see a 4runner or truck with a blown head gasket, and it's for sale for $1500. If I had a shop, all I would do is go out and buy these rigs, fix them and put them back up for sale, you could make a killing, you can easily do a headgasket in two days, and then sell the truck for at least $1000-$1500 more!

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