Bargas / soda machine CO2 tank as OBA?
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Bargas / soda machine CO2 tank as OBA?
so while the pledges where cleaning the basement this week
they found an old CO2 tank from back in the day when we were allowed to have kegs on campus
whit CO2 still in it.... if i get the fittings and what not, would this work as an OBA CO2 tank? is there something that i am missing. it seems like i buy a regulator and hose fittings it should be OBA right?
they found an old CO2 tank from back in the day when we were allowed to have kegs on campus
whit CO2 still in it.... if i get the fittings and what not, would this work as an OBA CO2 tank? is there something that i am missing. it seems like i buy a regulator and hose fittings it should be OBA right?
Last edited by Tofer; Nov 2, 2006 at 11:37 PM.
#2
I don't know about fitting a regulator to it, but check with a place that refills them and see how much it will be to pressure test it. They have to be tested every 5 years and if it's been longer than that they will charge you for doing it.
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any co2 tank will work. Like goat said, you will have to get it pressure tested. Also, some places can be finicky about filling tanks if you don't have proof of ownership, so make sure you can find a place to fill it.
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You arn't allowed to keep kegs on campus?
I feel for you deeply, really, that sucks huge donkey balls. I don't know where my university education would be without a constant supply of alcohol, but I think it might be in a place with a higher GPA
I feel for you deeply, really, that sucks huge donkey balls. I don't know where my university education would be without a constant supply of alcohol, but I think it might be in a place with a higher GPA
#5
I had issues with the tank being a soda tank, becasue they have to be sold to the public from coke or pepsi. So, shops can be finicky about that. Luckily, the guy at the store was really really cool, and swaped it for me, even though he shouldn't have. Guy was a champ, fellow wheeler, and understood my situation. But, can't count on that happening.
Now, there is a guy on mud, i believe, who had the same problem, and so he got out his metal stamping set, and stamped SOLD TO PUBLIC accross the PEPSI that was on his tank, and they filled it right away. SOOO, i'm not condoning this, as i'm sure it's a bit shaky in some eyes, but thought i'd present you with an option if they try to turn you away.
Other than that, once its been tested and filled, it works great. I've got a 20lb tank, and it goes forever. Plus, you can buy a power tank reg for it, and it will work just as well as a PT. There is a company that sells the PT style guages at much less the cost that PT does, and it is slamin. A buddy got one, so i'll ask him where he got it. Might be worth a looksee at least
Now, there is a guy on mud, i believe, who had the same problem, and so he got out his metal stamping set, and stamped SOLD TO PUBLIC accross the PEPSI that was on his tank, and they filled it right away. SOOO, i'm not condoning this, as i'm sure it's a bit shaky in some eyes, but thought i'd present you with an option if they try to turn you away.
Other than that, once its been tested and filled, it works great. I've got a 20lb tank, and it goes forever. Plus, you can buy a power tank reg for it, and it will work just as well as a PT. There is a company that sells the PT style guages at much less the cost that PT does, and it is slamin. A buddy got one, so i'll ask him where he got it. Might be worth a looksee at least
#7
No, UOP (university of the pacific) is very up tight about having kegs. the party rules are a joke. No drinking in Public areas of the house, (living room, dinging room, hallways ect) it has to be behind closed doors, techinically no more then 10 people per room, which is total bullÅÅÅÅ that nobody follows. but the school will come down hard on you if your caught wiht a keg.
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#9
Cool idea, I never even thought of it and I have a CO2 tank already setup with a regulator, fittings and hose. I use it for my finish nailer, no miles of cord and hose, and best of all no annoying dtdtdtdtdtdtdtdt of a compressor.
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I work for Pepsi and CO2 tanks sell for $22 filled to stores that have Pepsi fountain setups. I've been toying with the idea for a long time. Considering they sell old vending machines and coolers for $25 at the plant (don't take change and you just have to pick them up), I'm sure I could get some old CO2 tanks to sell, too...
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http://powertank.com/faqs
Q: “Isn’t this just a Scuba tank? Can I use my Scuba tank with your Reg Kit?”
A: We get this question a lot. Unfortaunately the answer is no. We use only top-of-the-line CO2 certified equipment. Scuba tanks are completely different in cylinder and valve design and scuba tanks cannot be used in place of a CO2 tank. Our SuperFlow Regulator Kits will not work on scuba tanks.
A: We get this question a lot. Unfortaunately the answer is no. We use only top-of-the-line CO2 certified equipment. Scuba tanks are completely different in cylinder and valve design and scuba tanks cannot be used in place of a CO2 tank. Our SuperFlow Regulator Kits will not work on scuba tanks.
One 10 lb C02 tank can refill 30 tires or more.
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That's why I asked the question as I did.
I wanted to see why you thought 3000 psi, in and of itself, was something better that C02


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Please hear me on this. While the CO2 tank you have will work and is certainly capable of taking the pressure of an OBA, it is NOT designed for the application for which you wish to use it, nor is it designed to be exposed to the environment to which you will expose it, and if it has been sitting a while it is no longer a legal tank to be used and should be destroyed/scrapped at the proper facility. Under no circumstances should you use it in my professional opinion and should an accident occur involving it, you could face some serious legal action.
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Please hear me on this. While the CO2 tank you have will work and is certainly capable of taking the pressure of an OBA, it is NOT designed for the application for which you wish to use it, nor is it designed to be exposed to the environment to which you will expose it, and if it has been sitting a while it is no longer a legal tank to be used and should be destroyed/scrapped at the proper facility. Under no circumstances should you use it in my professional opinion and should an accident occur involving it, you could face some serious legal action.
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Here is the powertank chart. Most of us fall in the 10 or 20 psi range, I usually wheel at 13psi and drive at 26 or 28, on a 35" tire. The largest tank powertank offers is 20 pound tank.

The CO2 tanks I have seen for kegs are rather small, and probally would require filling often. Scuba tanks range from 65 cu feet of air to 130 cu feet of air. What I cant find is the volume of a powertank.
I did find a review of the powertank that mentions that they are rated at 3000+psi, but the way CO2 works is as it evaporates it creates more air, so usually there is only 700-800 psi in the tank, thus the rating in pounds... But looking at tank size on the powertank website the largest tank, 20lbs, has dimensions of 30" tall by 8" diameter, that includes the handle. Scuba tanks with an 8" diameter are 24" to 30", no regulator or handle. A very large scuba tank can hold 130 cubic feet of air at 3000psi. I would like to see how many cubic feet of air 20lbs of CO2 would produce..
Personally I am not sold on the powertank setup. Its large and bulky and has to be accesibble and vertical to be used. I can hide an air compresser under the hood, behind a seat, in a tool box..etc, put a tank or two along the frame, under a tool box, etc.. and run an airline to the front and rear bumpers, and albeit a little slower, fill my tires. I dont waste a ton of space with the tank, dont have to leave it accesible with a bed full of camping gear. And with 2.5 to 5 gals of air at 100 psi its pretty quick to go from 13 to 26psi, even on 35's. Also for anyone who has ever dove you know how often leaks spring up on scuba tanks, which would make me leary of being 70 miles from the blacktop with my only airsource being in a tank. For the inital cost of a powertank I can have a very quick aircompresser and two 2.5 gallon tanks, with no chance of a leak leaving me stranded and no refill costs.
EDIT: Just saw coreys post, guess i have been working on my reply for a while

At pressure a large scuba tank holds 130 cubic feet or air, and using 4crawlers chart a 33x12.50 holds 3.2 cu feet of air, so a scuba tank could fill 40 of them, even a small 65 cubic foot tank could fill 20 33's from 10 to 30psi. It takes a 20lb CO2 tank to fill 40 33's from 10-30psi, so thats not too bad...
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I think he was talking about using air in the scuba tank not co2. I don't think you could find a place to fill a scuba tank with co2, if you did, they would be pretty shady.
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While a scuba tank can be 3K psi, I believe there is only enough air in them to do a few tires.
Remember, it is only air in there.
A C02 tank creates its air when the liquid is let out of the tank it creates pressure that creates air.
Remember, it is only air in there.
A C02 tank creates its air when the liquid is let out of the tank it creates pressure that creates air.
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I added some info to my post, my math might be wrong be a scuba tank can fill quite a few tires.


