Yes i have read every lift thread out there for 3rd gen 4runners and what not. Ive come to the conclusion that its hard to get a 3rd gen 4runner to the monster truck look that you want with out doin a SAS. I have no money for that type of thing and am staying IFS but i realized i really cant go much bigger than 6" of lift and big tires. I have a 3" coil lift on and plan to get a 4crawler 3" BL. then i will get 33's. thats like as big as i can go.


anyone have any way of goin bigger while staying IFS? im kinda bummed after getting used to my coil lift haha.

thanks sorry for such a general post but its just sometign ive realized.

-matt

 

Why would you want to go so big? Lift is bad

 

i dont know why. i like bigger cars i guess. i dont have a great reason i was just kind of thinking that 3rd gens really dont have as many options.

 

If it's about pavement princess looks, don't bother with a toyota. Why raise your centre of gravity if it is not giving you any performance gains?

 

its not about being a mall crawler at all. ive had a lot of problems scraping big ol rocks and stumps and what not and thats what brought it up.

 

6" trailmaster lift on top of the aftermarket struts you have..

No body lift.

 

Armour and the bracket lift? Otherwise SAS time, I suppose :O

 

I see. Well yeah i dont know many options for ifs rigs aside from a sas but you already know that. I think the body lift is your only other option for lift.

 

In that case i dont htink a body lift will help you much... other than the benefit of larger tires.

I think scuba is on top of it

 

sorry scuba i was out of town anyone want to give me a little more info on the 6" trailmaster idea?

thanks
-matt

 

You basically just use the corresponding year tacoma lift for the front. to get that much lift in the rear you will most likely need to do a leaf spring conversion.
Im almost 100% positive you cant get 6" of lift with the stock link bars in the rear. unless you make drop brackets for the link mounts, to just lower the suspension from the frame. but that would not be easy.

 

ok how difficult is the leaf conversion? because i dont have all the tools to do too much fabbing on my own. i have read up on the installation of the front part of the lift and feel prety confortable doing that.

thanks guys

-matt

 

to put leafs under the back you will need cutting tools (torch, plasma cutter, cuttoff wheels, sawzall, etc.) you pick which ever one you want.

You will need a grinder, a welder and the skills to use all the tools.

You will need to make or buy spring hangars, perches, shackle hangars, shackles, longer brake lines, shocks, springs, a u-bolt kit.

It takes some fabrication skills and some down time on the vehicle.

You were saying you wanted to put a 6" lift and only run 33" tires? If so that is just unnecessary height and a much more than desired center of gravity.

I know the ifs is different characteristics than a SAS kit, but i have a 4" sas kit, so probably 4.5-5" over stock and i can clear 40" iroks with a tiny bit of trimming. so 6" for 33's seems a little ridiculous to me. just my $.02

 

sorry i mis spoke when i said 33's earlier i would definantly be going with 35's atleast. but yeah the rear end is what seems to be difficult. is there any other option for the rear other than a leaf spring conversion that could get me a similar amount of lift to the front?

thanks guys

-matt

 

You can get that much with the factory link mounts, but longer links would DEFINITELY be recommended.

It wouldn't be too expensive to take yours in to an offroad shop and have them extended if the bushings are still good.

Basically, do the front lift, set the rear on jackstands at the ride height you want, position the axle where you want it (triple check to make sure it's square), and measure the distance for the new links. If the uppers on the 3rd gen are like they are on the second gen (like 1/4" or 1/2" diameter bar), I would have completely new uppers made. You may want to use the stock bushing on the axle end and go with a Johnny joint or similar on the frame end to have a little adjutability.

All that said, it will be a helluva lot cheaper and more effective to learn to pick lines without rocks or stumps.

 

Search for SC4runner...he has the bracket lift and some cutting and i believe he is running 35's. Have you considered the gearing issues?

 

get some armor

 

if ur gonna run 6" of lift, get at least 35s! maybe 37s! dont be weird and have a huge lift and small tires. (which is what bugs me about lifted hummers here in san diego..... big lift, small tires)

 

finally someone said it! if your tired of getting hung up on stumps and rocks, get you a 2 or 3inch body lift, do some cutting and trimming and get you some 35x10.50s. a susp lift aint gonna do anything to raise the axles so they still get hung up. jsut get some taller tires and lower gears

 

thanks for all the info guys!

well now i just have to decide if i want to do the big lift or if i just want to put a BL over my 3" lift and get bigger tires and armor.

any opinions?

thanks!

-matt