Okay guys i have a 77 jeep wagoneer and i want to make a crawler out of something so i was thinking of doing it to that truck but i would really like a 2gen 4runner too so any ideas??? thx

 

4runner

 

4 runner, solid axle tho with removable top.

 

no disrespect, but you're asking if you should keep your jeep or get a 4runner to turn into a crawler, on a yota forum...lol

IMHO, With the Jeep, you already have an engine with more power (v8 if I'm correct?) and a solid front axle. Two things that Toyota guys do to make their rigs big ass crawlers is do a solid axle swap(unless you already have a pre 1985, even then, they might swap in a stronger dana front and rear or something) and drop in a bigger motor like a Toy 3.4 or a Chevy V6 or the likes.

It's all about your preference. I personally think the lack of power in the 22re's makes up for the amount of maintenance I see Jeep guys doing.

 

lol ya i know odd question. but thx guys for the help.

 

Not that I want to argue but the Toy axles are plenty strong for tires up to 37's I believe, or at least that's what I've read. Oh and I agree on the maintenance remark.

Was a tad odd but no worries. If the Jeep is in good running shape then keep it and build it, I mean we all didn't start out with Toyotas (I ran IH Scouts for a while) but eventually we all ended up here.

My recommendation would be to find a 1985 Toyota 4runner (removable top, solid front axle, 22re fuel injected engine) and use that as a platform, but then I'm pro-Toyota.

 

Find all the picture threads and look through and find something you like.

 

That is true. Toyota axles are actually pretty dang strong. I think a safe area is about 35 inch tires.

I see guys running 40 tires on toyota axle...dont know if they have problems though...

and when I think of rock crawlers, I think of the crazy asses here in my town that have chevy 350's on full width axles and 44 mud boggers and with enough steel to build a sky scraper

 

a toy axle that has upgrades can handle 40" tires all day...lol


a stock dana 60 can as well though, and a dana 44 can too, depending on the wheeling you do.

 

Another thing to look at is the sorts of things you need to do to an older Jeep to get it ready for the rocks are things like a front spring shackle reversal, a spring over axle conversion and adding fuel injection to the engine so it does not stall out at odd angles on the trail. You can get all that stock on the solid axle Toyotas.