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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 09:59 PM
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yea. i just dont like the fact that detroits unlock when you turn..

does it unlock when your crawlin around a corner?

cuz alot of the trails ive been on your climbing a hill around a turn. and if it disengages id be p.oed
By unlocking, what it does in a turn is let the outside tire (the one that has to cover more ground) to overrun the ring gear. That tire is allowed to rotate faster that the ring gear but neither tire is ever allowed to turn slower. While you're on the gas, it doesn't disengage and acts like a spool. If you take corners while hitting the gas it won't unlock and the tires may chirp.
On the trail, you will never feel it unlock due to the slippage of tire on dirt.

They can be tricky to drive on slippery, curved, paved roads. Not too bad with the 22RE's power.
Like Pile said 'finesse' is the ticket.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 10:03 PM
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what do people find happens with lockers on icy roads? i mean i dont understand how lockers like aussie will be worse on ice if they dissengage around corners
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 10:06 PM
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im gonna be going with dual aussies pretty soon
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 10:20 PM
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thats what im thinking too, but people here keep saying it is horrible on icy roads, and thats what i have to deal with up here all winter long
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 10:29 PM
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It's just the fact that on icy roads there is no friction to make the locker unlock. Therefore the rear of your truck is going to come around very easy. but if you are a good driver there should be no problem. Just take it easy when the roads are slick. After time you'll get used to the sliding feeling and you'll be fine.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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awesome, thanks for the info
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 12:06 AM
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How about driving up hill around corners when you have to accelerate? Would the back end come back around? I've never driven anything with a locker for an extended amount of time on the pavement, so I'm curious what I should expect.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by stockwell45
what do people find happens with lockers on icy roads? i mean i dont understand how lockers like aussie will be worse on ice if they dissengage around corners
they are not that bad on a DD...now if you go a spool they will not unlock at all and you had better like buying tires

Originally Posted by 93yotaSR5
im gonna be going with dual aussies pretty soon
that is what I am running on my trail rig/semi Daily Driver...I am happy with the performance but when I lost my rear driveshaft and had to drive home in Front wheel drive...my arms hurt fighting the locked front end

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How about driving up hill around corners when you have to accelerate? Would the back end come back around? I've never driven anything with a locker for an extended amount of time on the pavement, so I'm curious what I should expect.
you get used to it...I was stationed in Alaska for 4 years and lived in upstate NY for 6 years...rear locker is OK...don't recommend a front locker (unless selectable) in a winter DD
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 12:52 PM
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I saw them somewhere advertised for 1200 for 2 lockers and a compressor ... but thats no install right .. So by the time you get thim installed your up to 2000 no prob.. I will see if I can find where I saw that

DID YOU FIND WHERE THIS WAS YET?

I LOOKED ALL OVER AND COULDNT FIND THIS ANYWHERE ILL KEEP LOOKING...
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 01:15 PM
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so far this is what i have found

im gonna need a high output compressor : ARB High Output OnBoard Air Compressor - 12 Volt

along with arbs: ARB Air Locker Locking Differential for 84-04 Toyota with 27 Spline wIth All Gear Ratios

which is gonna run me about 1200 the lowest i have seen

now that is just one locker. not both is what i understand.... right?

another locker for the front would be another 900 for the package again. but i can probably find it for less if i just get the locker part since i will already have all the necesities from the original package....?

who on here has a ARB locker front and rear? and how much did it cost for everything?
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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Im going to be going dual aussies front and rear. I still dont get what people are talking about as far as rear lockers being dangerous in the snow/ice. As long as you aren't driving like a nut case, nothing will happen... correct?
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 01:54 PM
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they way i understand is a detroit is a limited slip with a spring so when one tire begins to spin faster then the other it locks the differential so they spin together which in the rear would be good in icy/snowy conditions its the same as driving before because if it locks in its till gunna be pushing the truck. now having a locker in the front could be dangerous because your pulling and pushing in different direction if your turning.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 01:56 PM
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yeah but the front one will only engage if im in 4wd... i've never had to drive in white out conditions because I live in sacramento
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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i mean other then that you should be fine mak
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 02:07 PM
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haha there we go
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 4runner dude
DID YOU FIND WHERE THIS WAS YET?

I LOOKED ALL OVER AND COULDNT FIND THIS ANYWHERE ILL KEEP LOOKING...
No I looked for a good 20 min the other night. Could not find it. I just remember seeing it at a glance for all I know it was in a mag or something sorry.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by VANCE164
they way i understand is a detroit is a limited slip with a spring so when one tire begins to spin faster then the other it locks the differential so they spin together which in the rear would be good in icy/snowy conditions its the same as driving before because if it locks in its till gunna be pushing the truck. now having a locker in the front could be dangerous because your pulling and pushing in different direction if your turning.
A Detroit Locker is a fully automatic locking differential.
A Detroit Tru Trac is a limited slip that uses planetary gears instead of clutch discs.
They have very different characteristics on and off road.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MaK92-4RnR
Im going to be going dual aussies front and rear. I still dont get what people are talking about as far as rear lockers being dangerous in the snow/ice. As long as you aren't driving like a nut case, nothing will happen... correct?
A rear locker can be a little dicey on snow/ice since if you do break a tire loose, you will have both tires spinning, so you need to be real easy on the gas. I ran a rear Detroit for years and if you were on any sort of side slope, like even the normal crown in the road and starting off on any sort of hill, the rear end wanted to slide down the side slope. So if you were in say the left lane at a stop light with a vehicle to your right, the crown of the road would take your rear end towards that vehicle when you started out, at least until the front end started to pull. So I would usually try and be aware of situations like that and let the vehicle to the right pull away from the stop before I took off. And on sharper turns, you only have the inside tire pulling, the outer is coasting or if you give it a little more gas then the inside tire is spinning and the outside one is pulling, so that can be a little tricky to control if you are not expecting it. But for normal straight driving not on side hills, it is OK.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 04:18 PM
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Does anybody, (DOWNEY ) used to, make a cable set up for the Yota E'locker. That seems like a good route.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 4runner dude
DID YOU FIND WHERE THIS WAS YET?

I LOOKED ALL OVER AND COULDNT FIND THIS ANYWHERE ILL KEEP LOOKING...
The best no-special-insider-privvys price I've seen is $750(ea) for the lockers and $220 for the high-output compressor (not installed, of course) -- http://www.performanceoffroadcenter.com

(sorry if this looks like spam, just posting the best price I've found so far for ARB pieces)
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