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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 10:26 AM
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so is the 7mgte i believe lmao
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 12:30 PM
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and i agree with death cougear the 3vze is a crap chute but i am kind of attached to mine it has traeted me well. new gears helps alot though. i would sell it and get a 3rz 4cyl out of a taco and it shares bell patterns with 20r and would be pretty peppy in that truck
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
All depends on how you take care of it, and how it was rebuilt. If you threw the cheap Schucks replacement head gasket on it, and didn't have the motor completely gone through, its not a design issue its a rebuild issue.

I had a 1990 4Runner with 220K on it, original motor, doing just fine. Regular maintinence and a few tune up/repair parts (Timing belt, seals, the norm) was all it ever needed.

I hear stories from both sides of the fence, but the guys with bad motors usually have two things in common: Lack of maintinence, and improper repair using inferior parts.
I maintained that engine as good as my current truck - all recommended service at the recommended intervals with OEM parts. The 1st HG blew around 120K, I had the heads and block resurfaced and then it blew again at 147K. Fixed it again only to have the lower end go out for good about 1K later. I bought the truck with 50K on it but it would have to have been pretty neglected to do that much damage in the 1st 50K (which did not appear to be the case at the time).

Originally Posted by camo31"10.50"
i fully agree with DC's last post....

it's the person doing the maintenance/driving the vehicle..
Since that person was me, I know it was done right.

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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 03:36 PM
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the thing is the 81 it all i have 2 drive no money and my bad it a 89 3.0 and my 22r it messed up beyond repair

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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 03:39 PM
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I think I got what you meant, but that was on the border of being English and jibberish.
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 03:42 PM
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dude, NO it will not be feasible.


find another 22R and swap it in.


could have been the shopped that effed your 3vz Brian, might not have got all the metal shavings out and that caused that lower end to go out, since it did go out 1K miles later...and whenever a headgasket blows, the entire motor needs to be rubuilt usually, because if water gets into the oil (like it usually does...) then that will mess up the bearings, and once they're messed up..they just keep getting ate up
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 03:43 PM
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i agree with your last statement Brian...HAHAHAHA
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 03:43 PM
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if that's your only vehicle, your best bet is to sell the motor and put another 22r in it. Assuming you could unload that motor and find a used 22r in the same time frame as it would to get everything in and working properly.

If it were me it would probably take me a week just to figure out how to integrate the wiring harness. And since it's an 81, the motor mounts I believe are not a direct bolt in like it would be for an 86-95 with the 22r. I left out the 84-85 because I am unsure of how the motor mounts compare to the 86-88.
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 03:47 PM
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i cant find a good 22r around here 4 under $700 and cant find anyone to buy the 3.0
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 03:50 PM
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Because nobody wants to put that junk in their truck, so you shouldnt either
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 03:53 PM
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lmao i dont want 2 trust me my 22r was camed long tube header and 2 barrel carb
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by camo31"10.50"
dude, NO it will not be feasible.


find another 22R and swap it in.


could have been the shopped that effed your 3vz Brian, might not have got all the metal shavings out and that caused that lower end to go out, since it did go out 1K miles later...and whenever a headgasket blows, the entire motor needs to be rubuilt usually, because if water gets into the oil (like it usually does...) then that will mess up the bearings, and once they're messed up..they just keep getting ate up
I think you're right. I blamed the shop too of doing a crappy job on the 2nd HG and even confronted them about it. They said something like "Well, when you rebuild the top end, usually the lower end doesn't like that so it goes next, blah, blah, blah.. pass the buck.. we are perfect and would never screw up, blah, blah.." I never could do much about it because the 2nd HG wasn't leaking so I couldn't "prove" it was their fault, but it just made me hate those 3.0s (and that shop) after that. I ended up selling the truck with a screwed engine for $3K and I used it as a down payment on the 4runner I have now. In hindsight, I dfinitely should have just rebuilt the whole thing or swapped in a 3.4.

I bought that old 4runner in '99 for $12K and put ~$7K into it (besides engine work, it also blew the tranny at some point when I owned it). So basically I lost $16K on that pile of junk in 2 years. Probably the worst financial drain I've ever had in my life. My '97/3.4 has been the exact opposite. I'm glad I didn't give up on Toyota trucks after that experience because my '95 was such a lemon.

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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 06:26 PM
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i cant find a good 22r around here 4 under $700 and cant find anyone to buy the 3.0

1: Where is "here"? Stop making us guess and talk to you as if you can't source a simple 22R motor...

2: Stop using your iPhone to post here... Or s.p.e.l.l werdz out.

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lmao i dont want 2 trust me my 22r was camed long tube header and 2 barrel carb

3: And ever heard of a freaking 20/22R Hybrid?

4: Google "20/22R Hybrid" on your iPhone...

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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 06:29 PM
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the hybrid motor won't help him much....i don't think he wants to build a motor..he just wants to swap one in.
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by camo31"10.50"
the hybrid motor won't help him much....i don't think he wants to build a motor..he just wants to swap one in.

I know, but we've turned some non-believers before...

He said he's got a cam and header? So I'll assume he's got an exhaust...

All he needs is a 20R head?

Pull-a-Part: 20R head... $50-$75

Head shop to freshen up the 20R head: $100

Me rolling my eyes b/c of the absurdity ALONE of having to cut and reweld the motor mounts, and or get a V6 tranny: Free!


ooh, ooh, ooh!! .... But somebody gave him a motor...

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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 06:41 PM
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well he needs a block too apparently since his 22R is "messed up beyond repair" i'm gonna go with it through a rod through the block.

and when ever you get the block, you'll wanna rebuild it.


sooooo money for block-$50-$150
Crank kit with new crank- no idea, not cheap..over $150 i believe.
new pistons, rods, whole rebuild kit-$250-$400.



not necessarily cheap.




find a good 22R with a bad head, and a good 20R head and you'd be okay lol
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 06:55 PM
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-22r/e- no, he wants more power.
-3vze- No, its not worth swapping in a pile.
-7mge- Think about it, costs 1k to 2500 dollars.
-3.4- Dont know the cost for a 1st gen, but im assuming around 3 grand.
-4.3- Also around 3 grand.
-1mzfe- I know nothing about, but sounds like it wont work.
-3rz- No clue on their price.

So there are your options for a motor swap. 22r/e swap is going to be the easiest. But you want more power, so take your pick on the other motors. Or put the 3.0 in and go against everyones advice.
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 07:04 PM
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Drop in a SBC 350, and call it a day.
It's carbed, reliable, and if he doesnt stomp the skinny pedal he'll be able to keep his tranny in tact.

Not only that, but it should be a pretty straightforward swap.
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by yota kidd
ive got a 81 yota and someone gave me a good 3.0 motor trans and wiring i cant find a good 22r so how hard would it be it in there aand get running its a 89 motor my bad

Runs good? Has nice high compression? Oil pressure? No head gasket issues?


Those are what we call in the biz... "Mystery Motors"


A LOT to be pinning hopes and dreams on AFTER you go through all the knuckle banging, fabbing and adapting to even get it in...
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 11:20 PM
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Red face

It is a shame the poster did not tell us were they live.

I have a complete running 22re That if they would have been willing to pull the engine. I would have given to them.

such is life.

But that will not boost his horsepower.
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