how hard would it be to put a 95 v6 in a 81 pickup
#22
and i agree with death cougear the 3vze is a crap chute but i am kind of attached to mine it has traeted me well. new gears helps alot though. i would sell it and get a 3rz 4cyl out of a taco and it shares bell patterns with 20r and would be pretty peppy in that truck
#23
All depends on how you take care of it, and how it was rebuilt. If you threw the cheap Schucks replacement head gasket on it, and didn't have the motor completely gone through, its not a design issue its a rebuild issue.
I had a 1990 4Runner with 220K on it, original motor, doing just fine. Regular maintinence and a few tune up/repair parts (Timing belt, seals, the norm) was all it ever needed.
I hear stories from both sides of the fence, but the guys with bad motors usually have two things in common: Lack of maintinence, and improper repair using inferior parts.
I had a 1990 4Runner with 220K on it, original motor, doing just fine. Regular maintinence and a few tune up/repair parts (Timing belt, seals, the norm) was all it ever needed.
I hear stories from both sides of the fence, but the guys with bad motors usually have two things in common: Lack of maintinence, and improper repair using inferior parts.
Since that person was me, I know it was done right.
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#26
dude, NO it will not be feasible.
find another 22R and swap it in.
could have been the shopped that effed your 3vz Brian, might not have got all the metal shavings out and that caused that lower end to go out, since it did go out 1K miles later...and whenever a headgasket blows, the entire motor needs to be rubuilt usually, because if water gets into the oil (like it usually does...) then that will mess up the bearings, and once they're messed up..they just keep getting ate up
find another 22R and swap it in.
could have been the shopped that effed your 3vz Brian, might not have got all the metal shavings out and that caused that lower end to go out, since it did go out 1K miles later...and whenever a headgasket blows, the entire motor needs to be rubuilt usually, because if water gets into the oil (like it usually does...) then that will mess up the bearings, and once they're messed up..they just keep getting ate up
#28
if that's your only vehicle, your best bet is to sell the motor and put another 22r in it. Assuming you could unload that motor and find a used 22r in the same time frame as it would to get everything in and working properly.
If it were me it would probably take me a week just to figure out how to integrate the wiring harness. And since it's an 81, the motor mounts I believe are not a direct bolt in like it would be for an 86-95 with the 22r. I left out the 84-85 because I am unsure of how the motor mounts compare to the 86-88.
If it were me it would probably take me a week just to figure out how to integrate the wiring harness. And since it's an 81, the motor mounts I believe are not a direct bolt in like it would be for an 86-95 with the 22r. I left out the 84-85 because I am unsure of how the motor mounts compare to the 86-88.
#32
dude, NO it will not be feasible.
find another 22R and swap it in.
could have been the shopped that effed your 3vz Brian, might not have got all the metal shavings out and that caused that lower end to go out, since it did go out 1K miles later...and whenever a headgasket blows, the entire motor needs to be rubuilt usually, because if water gets into the oil (like it usually does...) then that will mess up the bearings, and once they're messed up..they just keep getting ate up
find another 22R and swap it in.
could have been the shopped that effed your 3vz Brian, might not have got all the metal shavings out and that caused that lower end to go out, since it did go out 1K miles later...and whenever a headgasket blows, the entire motor needs to be rubuilt usually, because if water gets into the oil (like it usually does...) then that will mess up the bearings, and once they're messed up..they just keep getting ate up
I bought that old 4runner in '99 for $12K and put ~$7K into it (besides engine work, it also blew the tranny at some point when I owned it). So basically I lost $16K on that pile of junk in 2 years. Probably the worst financial drain I've ever had in my life. My '97/3.4 has been the exact opposite. I'm glad I didn't give up on Toyota trucks after that experience because my '95 was such a lemon.
Last edited by brian2sun; Jan 13, 2011 at 05:15 PM.
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From: Nashville TN. I can help you if you're close BUT NOBODY CAN HELP YOU IF YOU DON'T FILL YOUR LOCATION IN!
1: Where is "here"? Stop making us guess and talk to you as if you can't source a simple 22R motor...
2: Stop using your iPhone to post here... Or s.p.e.l.l werdz out.
3: And ever heard of a freaking 20/22R Hybrid?
4: Google "20/22R Hybrid" on your iPhone...
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From: Nashville TN. I can help you if you're close BUT NOBODY CAN HELP YOU IF YOU DON'T FILL YOUR LOCATION IN!
I know, but we've turned some non-believers before...
He said he's got a cam and header? So I'll assume he's got an exhaust...
All he needs is a 20R head?
Pull-a-Part: 20R head... $50-$75
Head shop to freshen up the 20R head: $100
Me rolling my eyes b/c of the absurdity ALONE of having to cut and reweld the motor mounts, and or get a V6 tranny: Free!
ooh, ooh, ooh!! .... But somebody gave him a motor...
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#36
well he needs a block too apparently since his 22R is "messed up beyond repair" i'm gonna go with it through a rod through the block.
and when ever you get the block, you'll wanna rebuild it.
sooooo money for block-$50-$150
Crank kit with new crank- no idea, not cheap..over $150 i believe.
new pistons, rods, whole rebuild kit-$250-$400.
not necessarily cheap.
find a good 22R with a bad head, and a good 20R head and you'd be okay lol
and when ever you get the block, you'll wanna rebuild it.
sooooo money for block-$50-$150
Crank kit with new crank- no idea, not cheap..over $150 i believe.
new pistons, rods, whole rebuild kit-$250-$400.
not necessarily cheap.
find a good 22R with a bad head, and a good 20R head and you'd be okay lol
#37
-22r/e- no, he wants more power.
-3vze- No, its not worth swapping in a pile.
-7mge- Think about it, costs 1k to 2500 dollars.
-3.4- Dont know the cost for a 1st gen, but im assuming around 3 grand.
-4.3- Also around 3 grand.
-1mzfe- I know nothing about, but sounds like it wont work.
-3rz- No clue on their price.
So there are your options for a motor swap. 22r/e swap is going to be the easiest. But you want more power, so take your pick on the other motors. Or put the 3.0 in and go against everyones advice.
-3vze- No, its not worth swapping in a pile.
-7mge- Think about it, costs 1k to 2500 dollars.
-3.4- Dont know the cost for a 1st gen, but im assuming around 3 grand.
-4.3- Also around 3 grand.
-1mzfe- I know nothing about, but sounds like it wont work.
-3rz- No clue on their price.
So there are your options for a motor swap. 22r/e swap is going to be the easiest. But you want more power, so take your pick on the other motors. Or put the 3.0 in and go against everyones advice.
#38
Drop in a SBC 350, and call it a day.
It's carbed, reliable, and if he doesnt stomp the skinny pedal he'll be able to keep his tranny in tact.
Not only that, but it should be a pretty straightforward swap.
It's carbed, reliable, and if he doesnt stomp the skinny pedal he'll be able to keep his tranny in tact.
Not only that, but it should be a pretty straightforward swap.
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Runs good? Has nice high compression? Oil pressure? No head gasket issues?
Those are what we call in the biz... "Mystery Motors"

A LOT to be pinning hopes and dreams on AFTER you go through all the knuckle banging, fabbing and adapting to even get it in...
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It is a shame the poster did not tell us were they live.
I have a complete running 22re That if they would have been willing to pull the engine. I would have given to them.
such is life.
But that will not boost his horsepower.
I have a complete running 22re That if they would have been willing to pull the engine. I would have given to them.
such is life.
But that will not boost his horsepower.


