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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 06:10 PM
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Future SAS gathering info

I have read numerous threads about SAS-ing an IFS rig. I have recently acquired a 1985 Toyota front axle. It is complete from hub to hub and comes with some steering components.



I am not in a hurry to do this as other projects are in front of it and more important. I am not going to do this myself. I do however have a few questions.
Just trying to get this straight in my mind for budgeting (buying the parts needed)

What I am interested in is what it takes to make it a well built conversion to a solid axle. What suggested components do I need to get?
1) First thing to do is a rebuild kit for the axle, all new seals, bearings, etc.
Are some kits better than others? Longfields?
2) Steering - Already a V6 steering box. Does it still need to be moved? Or only if I run larger tires for clearance?
3) Steering - Is hi-steer necessary or for bigger lifts?
4) Knuckles - Upgraded is a requirement.
5) Can my V6 front brakes be re-used? I am guessing yes. Longer lines are a must.
6) Am I forgeting anything? I probably am.
7) What did it cost you? Parts, labor, kits? What were your concerns during install?

If you are uncomfortable about revealing prices, please feel free to PM me with costs, concerns, upgrades to do.

I will add that my 4Runner has been a dependable running vehicle since the day I bought it. It's stock and has performed well offroad (for the stuff I do). A little seafoam, tune ups, oil changes, air filters, basic stuff is all I've put into. 3 years, 231,873 miles and counting.

Thank you to all, in advance, for your contributions and responses.
Phil Delfino

Also, go buy 4 Wheel Drive & Sport Utility to see the article on ZUK.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by phildelfino
What I am interested in is what it takes to make it a well built conversion to a solid axle. What suggested components do I need to get?
1) First thing to do is a rebuild kit for the axle, all new seals, bearings, etc.
Are some kits better than others? Longfields?
2) Steering - Already a V6 steering box. Does it still need to be moved? Or only if I run larger tires for clearance?
3) Steering - Is hi-steer necessary or for bigger lifts?
4) Knuckles - Upgraded is a requirement.
5) Can my V6 front brakes be re-used? I am guessing yes. Longer lines are a must.
6) Am I forgeting anything? I probably am.
7) What did it cost you? Parts, labor, kits? What were your concerns during install?
1. Knuckle service kit with wheel bearings. Longfields if you are planning on wheeling, not necessary for mall crawling
2. Sleeve and plate frame
3. Yes.
4. No need to upgrade knuckles to six shooters unless you are going to beat on it
5. Rebuild and reuse along with your wheel hubs etc
6. Yep, tons of stuff to do for a SAS. Front, rear, lockers, gearing, armor, tires, steering, etc ad nauseum
7. Budget $3500 easily and depending on what else you do, last one I did was twice that in parts alone

Since you are in no hurry, you got lots of time to read read and read.

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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 12:22 PM
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Thank you for all that.

Anybody else have an opinion, comment, required worry?
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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I'd ad a gusset and plate the steering stops. Six Shooter arms are overkill I think but I would invest in some ARP studs at least. Your going to need some 2" spacers if you want the front to match the back.

Wabbit covered the rest and X2 on the budgeting. Put it all on paper and then double it and that'll be closer to the real number. Numerous trips to the hardware store, oil, welding supplies, paint, different parts once you have started...it get's interesting.

Also like he said don't forget about the rear half of your truck, springs, gears, lockers, tires, ect ect.
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by UKMyers
I'd ad a gusset and plate the steering stops. Six Shooter arms are overkill I think but I would invest in some ARP studs at least. Your going to need some 2" spacers if you want the front to match the back.

Wabbit covered the rest and X2 on the budgeting. Put it all on paper and then double it and that'll be closer to the real number. Numerous trips to the hardware store, oil, welding supplies, paint, different parts once you have started...it get's interesting.

Also like he said don't forget about the rear half of your truck, springs, gears, lockers, tires, ect ect.
Thank you UKMyers. Good call on the rear. I didn't forget it.



Any body else. I'm making a list and checking it twice.
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